Favorite T2K-era ATGM

[helbent4]

The Milan and AT-4 are not technically interchangeable, but the Indians (or was it the Pakistanis) have a launcher which can fire both of them.

Paul,

I think that was India. They bought Konkurs from the Soviet Union, but these are being phased out for a locally-built licenced MILAN. So while I can't specifically find a reference to interoperability it would make a lot of sense to at least use up any of their old inventory of the earlier missiles.

Aside from your site, there are a few specific references relating to the "Flame V" kit produced by either Germany/France and/or India to allow the BMP-2 system to launch the MILAN. I'm not sure if this would allow for dismounted firing, although I can't see why not. Presumably this kit was manufactured for non-Russians like the Indians who have both BMPs and MILANs in their inventories. It would make sense that this kit would also exist in T2K.

Bharat Dynamics Limited [of India], which also builds the MILAN 2 under licence, has developed with Euromissile the Flame-V and Flame-G adaptor kits (qv entry this section under India) to allow the MILAN 2 to be fired from the 9P135 series firing posts of the Russian Federation and Associated States (CIS) 9K113 Konkurs missile system.

https://"http://www.pakdef.info/pakm...gm/milan.html"



Tony

[Legbreaker]

Basically, think about starting off in a Battle of Kalisz type scenario somewhere in the Twilight World, c.2000. Which ATGM system would you take That's how I should have phrased the question originally.

I picked the Milan. However, when behind enemy lines, you use whatever comes to hand once the ready supply of ammo is expended...

[Fusilier]

I picked the Milan. I like its capabilities vs its portability.

[raketenjagdpanzer]

I said Tankbreaker/Javelin; they're just as common as anything else (well, "common" not in the c/r sense...), although I can definitely see the advantages of Milan.

Also: No love for the Dragon :P

[Raellus]

I thought the Tankbreaker/Javelin would run away with this one. I wouldn't want to have to sit still and hold the crosshairs on an enemy AFV after announcing my presence with a big ol' backblast. Wire-guided, schmire-guided.

[raketenjagdpanzer]

I thought the Tankbreaker/Javelin would run away with this one. I wouldn't want to have to sit still and hold the crosshairs on an enemy AFV after announcing my presence with a big ol' backblast. Wire-guided, schmire-guided.

Exactly; gimme Tankbreaker/Jav any day of the week. Pull the trigger, quietly run away

[Panther Al]

Oh don't get me wrong the jav is max goodness with little suckage, but what suckage that the jav has is huge: namely, you better hope that you got a minute or two before you have to fire it. Assuming, for the moment, the temp of the air is, oh, 80 degrees F, the time between when the clu is flipped on till when you can actually use it is about 30 seconds, and the hotter it gets the longer it takes. Seen jav take almost two minutes to cool down before it could be fired over in Iraq, so, in my mind, that is a downside to it. Again, this being said, once cooled down its 100% pure awesome.