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  • XR-311 ....... 3-2-1 Discuss.

    Ok here IT is the Projects jeep added to 3rd edition pre-HMMWV.

    Pro and Cons in Morrow Project play Team use or abandoned What did you add to it Drop it and replace with the HMMWV












  • #2
    I always thought the XR-311 was absolutely the wrong vehicle for Operation Damocles........ Including the special rules for PCs to get out and move so they don't become hypothermic or suffer frost bite.

    In warmer southern climates, yes. The XR-311 lacks armor, though it can support Team members with crew served weapons. Makes an excellent radio relay station. Damn if I wasn't surprised that the Army radio was INSTALLED into the DASH........ crap, how simple and smart was that

    I think I will keep it in my games (should I get to run some F2F) and make the HMMWV available as an option for later cached teams.

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    • #3
      For my newer project HMMWV A3 series all the way.

      I am currently looking for the weights of HMMWV standard accessories (like seats, doors, etc) to allow a team to build up their vehicles based on local conditions.

      This will be an vehicle extension of my equip a character "shopping cart" type system. I have been working on it on an off for a long time but I may finally have some time to work on it soon.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by kato13 View Post
        I am currently looking for the weights of HMMWV standard accessories (like seats, doors, etc) to allow a team to build up their vehicles based on local conditions.
        Probably in the -20 or -30 maintenance manuals. That is where I would look first. This and the BII.

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        • #5
          It probably fulfills the quota of "bought on the Surplus Market" the Project had. Would have been better to just get a ton of old Willy Jeeps and use those instead.

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          • #6
            How about the Lamborghini LM002 which was developed from the Lamborghini Cheetah which almost a copy of the XR-311 made by FMC

            Make sense civilian SUV made till 1993, given the status of the COT it would drawn to much attention if they bought some

            It has doors, an armour kit and a weapons mounting kit
            I will not hide. I will not be deterred nor will I be intimidated from my performing my duty, I am a Canadian Soldier.

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            • #7
              Wrong vehicle for Damocles!!!! Wrong Vehicle for pretty much anything. Too small, can not carry a full Vehicle load of goodies.

              Does a Jeep type vehicle have a place in TMP Maybe.... With EXTREME care this thing is good for a quick recon run or a radio relay. Not much else.

              My $0.02

              Mike

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              • #8
                I have lots of M151 surplus in my regional depots and larger nesting caches, but IIRC only 12 assigned to a region's teams.

                They are supplemental to the heavy trucks for some of my heavy logistics teams.

                Long term I can see the them being quite useful for short range missions in secure areas.

                I don't use fusion, but if I did I would just switch them to a multi-fuel engine as a fusion plant in a 300 dollars vehicle (I remember seeing 6 being sold for $1800 in 1988) seems like overkill.

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                • #9
                  The XR311 is interesting, but really a dead end. It did lead to the HMMWV after a few more attempts.

                  For the game I'm not sure about it. It adds more spare parts to support and house and doesn't really offer that much, but for the early 1980's there isn't much out there.

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                  • #10
                    ever since i first saw it i always thought it looked like the love child of a Chenowth and a HMMWV.

                    granted actually knowing that it was an early prototype that later developed into the HMMWV doesn't change my mind on it looking like such
                    the best course of action when all is against you is to slow down and think critically about the situation. this way you are not blindly rushing into an ambush and your mind is doing something useful rather than getting you killed.

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                    • #11
                      Well it's smaller than a HMMWV and it looks like it's a more capable vehicle than the Desert Patrol Vehicle.

                      I don't know about you but for some things the HMMWV is huge and lets face it the DPV is not that great. I've been in a DPV and it did not strike me as that Impressive.

                      the XM-311 just looks a lot more capable than a DPV while remaining in a similar size envelope.

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                      • #12
                        It comes down to what area it would be deployed in and time frame. In the five years after a nuclear attack I could see these being useful but one hundred fifty years after a nuclear strike they would most definatly be a sub par vehicle for use. Only real part I could see them useful in is the American South West where weather wouldn't be that big of an issue.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mikeo80 View Post
                          Wrong vehicle for Damocles!!!! Wrong Vehicle for pretty much anything. Too small, can not carry a full Vehicle load of goodies.

                          Does a Jeep type vehicle have a place in TMP Maybe.... With EXTREME care this thing is good for a quick recon run or a radio relay. Not much else.

                          My $0.02

                          Mike
                          I think giving the Team (aka Players) an open topped jeep keeps them honest and forces them out to do stuff instead of hiding inside the can (V-150).

                          1/4 ton payload is 500lbs. That and it can tow a trailer. Trailer adds another 3/4 ton or 1500lbs.

                          It is good for some recon........ They have to get out on foot and actually go to something and look at it.

                          Not great if one is getting shot at all the time.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rockwolf66 View Post
                            Well it's smaller than a HMMWV and it looks like it's a more capable vehicle than the Desert Patrol Vehicle.

                            I don't know about you but for some things the HMMWV is huge and lets face it the DPV is not that great. I've been in a DPV and it did not strike me as that Impressive.

                            the XM-311 just looks a lot more capable than a DPV while remaining in a similar size envelope.
                            There is a FAV on display at Ft. Lewis (or there was) in the museum on North Fort. Someone stole the engine from it for their own buggy project. It is really small and the crew could only take a ruck and a sleeping bag after everything else was loaded.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ArmySGT. View Post
                              There is a FAV on display at Ft. Lewis (or there was) in the museum on North Fort. Someone stole the engine from it for their own buggy project. It is really small and the crew could only take a ruck and a sleeping bag after everything else was loaded.
                              Way back in August 1999, I got to examine a DPV that belonged to a Force Recon unit. At the time I was only 140 pounds and I found it rather small. the top gunners seat felt like the afterthought that it was.

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