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    Morrow Project Ranks??

    I've been thinking about Morrow Project ranks...

    We know that the ranks of Team Leader & Deputy Team Leader exist in the main books and the modules and that a Science team leader outranks a Mars team leader, and that Mars Team leader outranks a Recon Team leader.. And in some of the modules some of the speciality teams even outranked Recon Teams. But what about Bases and other facilities

    I've been working on an idea for a prelim rank structure, but want to hear what others think first. I will say that my prelim concept for project rank had to do with a persons security clearence.

    The German and Russian Navy had multiple levels or grades to the rank of ship's Captain that depended on the type of ship they commanded (Ship of the Line Captain, Frigate Captain and Corevette Captain for the Germans, and First Grade, Second Grade and Thrid Grade for Russians). We could easily do that for the 'rank' of Team Leader to cover the differences between the different 'grades' of teams.

    So... what do the rest of you think what do you guys use for 'rank' in your projects
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    Morrow Leadership

    I think that your idea is a good one. The only hierarchy I remember seeing was in Desert Search and Prime Base. I have to dig out the rest of my books to review them for leadership levels.

    Maybe we could use the U.S. Military ranks

    If you are familiar with the David Weber/Steven White Starfire series books, we could use a variation of the Orion command structure. In that series, you had a "thirty-fifth fang" who was senior to a "fourty-second fang". Just a thought.

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    • #3
      This is what I had originally considered..

      The highest rank I had was the rank of Director that would come in grades, each grade would coorespond with the level that the director would hold... National, Regional, State, COG.

      Then you had the rank of Team Leader that also came in grades that corresponded with the level that the team leader holds in the chain of command of the COG they are assigned.

      Then you have the rank of Deputy Team Leader that i don't think wouldn't have been broken down into grades...

      Then you would have the 'ranks' that would be dependent upon a person's jobs/duties that would each have three grades that also correspond with a persons duties inside the overall structure of where the team falls inside of the COG..

      Supervisor (Chief Supervisor, Senior Supervisor, Supervisor)
      Operator (Chief Operator, Senior Operator, Operator)
      Technician (Chief Technician, Senior Technician, Techncian)
      Trainee/Recruit (two grades of Senior Trainne/Recruit and Trainee/Recruit)

      I had thought of a modification of old naval ranks since they are based on very 'functional' operations.

      Team Leader (aka Captain)
      Deputy Team Leader (aka Lieutenant)
      Chief Petty Officer
      Petty Officer
      Leading Specialist
      Able Specialist
      Specialist


      Omega Level Secret (single grade used for the project's national leadership positions only)
      Ultra Secret (regional / national project directors)
      Top Secret (regional and state level directors)
      Secret (state and COG level directors)
      Confidential (the rank and file project members)

      I had wanted to go with a color level for security nomenclature as well based on the seven colors of the visiual spectrum that went with these various security levels (violet as the highest and red the lowest)... I just haven't been able to get everything to link up yet.


      The ideas of the nomenclature for the various grades within the security levels (from highest to lowest) that i've thought of using has been...
      1st Grade
      2nd Grade
      3rd Grade
      4th Grade
      5th Grade
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      • #4
        Here is an expansion of what i posted yesterday...

        The rank of Director would be divided into grades kind of like this...

        Project Director (the person who is THE director of the entire project)
        National Director (handles the day-to-day operations on the national level)
        Regional Director (handles the day-to-day operations on a regional level, and sits on the project board-of-directors to orchestrate the operations of the project)
        State Director (I had considered calling state-level as Divisional or Departmental, any suggestions)
        District / Combined Operations Group Director

        Team Leader (aka Captain)
        Deputy Team Leader (aka Lieutenant)
        Chief Petty Officer (Chief Supervisor or Senior Supervisor)
        Petty Officer (Supervisor or Senior Supervisor)
        Leading Specialist (Chief Operator)
        Able Specialist (Senior Operator)
        Specialist (Operator)
        Technician
        Trainee / Applicant


        Team Leader 1st Class ()
        Team Leader 2nd Class ()
        Team Leader 3rd Class ()
        Team Leader 4th Class ()
        Team Leader 5th Class ()

        Deputy Team Leader

        Chief Supervisor
        Senior Supervisor
        Supervisor

        Chief Operator
        Senior Operator
        Operator

        Chief Technician
        Senior Technician
        Technician
        Fuck being a hero. Do you know what you get for being a hero? Nothing! You get shot at. You get a little pat on the back, blah blah blah, attaboy! You get divorced... Your wife can't remember your last name, your kids don't want to talk to you... You get to eat a lot of meals by yourself. Trust me kid, nobody wants to be that guy. I do this because there is nobody else to do it right now. Believe me if there was somebody else to do it, I would let them do it. There's not, so I'm doing it.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by natehale1971 View Post
          State Director (I had considered calling state-level as Divisional or Departmental, any suggestions)
          Given the variation in state size I would think it would have to be some other term.

          I have come across several governmental structures which followed the Region->Sector->Division structure. The only problem I see is the odd sound of "Sector Director" when you say it out loud.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kato13 View Post
            Given the variation in state size I would think it would have to be some other term.

            I have come across several governmental structures which followed the Region->Sector->Division structure. The only problem I see is the odd sound of "Sector Director" when you say it out loud.
            using 'Sector' might work... especially the division of large states with alarge population would need to be figured out.. but with a state like Alaska that has alot of of territory, but not that large of a population might actually be a godsend to the project. it wasn't as likely to face alot of nuke strikes, and could have been one of the locations of the major supply depots and pre-existing manufacturing facilities of the project. especially the 'project communities' that had been created that where the backbone of the project before they had created the cyrogenics to freeze people to sleep through the war.

            how do you guys handle the project communities that where established in those areas that where suppose to weather the storm as it were and be used as the core of the reconstruction efforts of the project
            Fuck being a hero. Do you know what you get for being a hero? Nothing! You get shot at. You get a little pat on the back, blah blah blah, attaboy! You get divorced... Your wife can't remember your last name, your kids don't want to talk to you... You get to eat a lot of meals by yourself. Trust me kid, nobody wants to be that guy. I do this because there is nobody else to do it right now. Believe me if there was somebody else to do it, I would let them do it. There's not, so I'm doing it.

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            • #7
              I've been thinking of the rank insignia for the Project... i've got an idea for something simple that would be easy to recognized. I have thought of them being one to three rectangles that would be in gold, silver or bronze. this would give the project nine levels of rank that would have an insigian and could easily cover everything from the national director right down to supervisors.
              Fuck being a hero. Do you know what you get for being a hero? Nothing! You get shot at. You get a little pat on the back, blah blah blah, attaboy! You get divorced... Your wife can't remember your last name, your kids don't want to talk to you... You get to eat a lot of meals by yourself. Trust me kid, nobody wants to be that guy. I do this because there is nobody else to do it right now. Believe me if there was somebody else to do it, I would let them do it. There's not, so I'm doing it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by natehale1971 View Post
                ...my prelim concept for project rank had to do with a persons security clearence...
                I use the same idea; security clearance = rank/position. I have kept actual ranks to a minimum - I use titles rather than ranks, and there are no badges. Your proof of authority is marked on/embedded in your MPID.

                Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta and Epsilon are my grades/ratings, with B.E.M. having Alpha-One rating; the Commander of Prime Base having a Gamma-One rating; while the commander of a group, farm, supply base, etc would have a Delta-Two rating. Team Leaders have Epsilon-One ratings, and 'rank and file' team members have Epsilon-Two ratings.

                As you can see, there are ratings in between these but I think you have the idea of what I do and how I do it.

                Cheers!
                Travelelr
                "I Reject Your Reality And Substitute My Own!"
                A. Savage; Mythbuster

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                  I use the same idea; security clearance = rank/position. I have kept actual ranks to a minimum - I use titles rather than ranks, and there are no badges. Your proof of authority is marked on/embedded in your MPID.

                  Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta and Epsilon are my grades/ratings, with B.E.M. having Alpha-One rating; the Commander of Prime Base having a Gamma-One rating; while the commander of a group, farm, supply base, etc would have a Delta-Two rating. Team Leaders have Epsilon-One ratings, and 'rank and file' team members have Epsilon-Two ratings.

                  As you can see, there are ratings in between these but I think you have the idea of what I do and how I do it.

                  Cheers!
                  Travelelr
                  I like the use of Alpha, beta, gama, delta as the titles for the grade/level security clearence.. it reminds me of the ComStar from battletech. gives me an idea on how i can use it. i'll post later when i get a chance to develop it some more!
                  Fuck being a hero. Do you know what you get for being a hero? Nothing! You get shot at. You get a little pat on the back, blah blah blah, attaboy! You get divorced... Your wife can't remember your last name, your kids don't want to talk to you... You get to eat a lot of meals by yourself. Trust me kid, nobody wants to be that guy. I do this because there is nobody else to do it right now. Believe me if there was somebody else to do it, I would let them do it. There's not, so I'm doing it.

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