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  • #16
    Originally posted by ArmySGT. View Post
    Armor value 48 = 2.54cm of Rolled Homogenous Steel. (RHA)

    2.54cm = 25.4mm

    Penetration for 85mm HEAT-FS is 300mm.

    300 divided by 25.4 = 11.81102362

    Rounded to 11.811 inches of RHA

    11.811 divided by 2.54 = 4.6500093

    Rounded to 4.65 doublings from 2.54

    AV 48 * (2.54^4.65) = 3661.997299

    Rounded to 3662

    Efactor for HEAT-FS is 3662.


    Nope. Can't be right. I am screwing up the math in figuring how many times a penentration has doubled from the original 2.54 cm.
    300mm = 30 cm

    2.54 ^ 3.64 = 29.75738257

    29.75738257 = 1428.354364

    E-factor = 1428

    Better

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    • #17
      85mm HVAP-T
      Armor Penetration (mm):
      180mm (RHA) at 1,000 meters E-Factor =
      113mm (RHA, 30o) at 500 meters E-Factor =

      AV 48 = 25.4mm RHA.
      For each x2 in armor thickness, x2.5 AV

      180mm = 2.82 doublings. E-factor = 48 * (2.5^2.82) = 636
      113mm = 2.15 doublings. E-factor = 48 * (2.5^2.15) = 344

      HEAT-FS
      300mm = 3.56 doublings. E-factor = 48 * (2.5^3.56) = 1253

      AP-HE
      90mm = 1.82 doublings. E-factor = 48 * (2.5^1.82) = 254


      Another way of looking at:
      "For each x2 in armor thickness, x2.5 AV"

      is

      Armor thickness varies with 2^(a)

      Final armor value = 48*(2.5^(a))

      So 180/25.4 is about 7.09, which is 2^(2.82).

      Using the scientific calculator in Windows:
      - Take the log of 7.09 (~0.851)
      - Store in memory
      - Take the log of 2 (~0.301)
      - divide by what's in memory
      - take the reciprocal (1/x) (~2.82)
      - use this answer to find AV/E-factor (48*[2.5^2.82])

      It's roundabout but accurate...

      Rob

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      • #18
        Thank you for your reply Rob3j!

        Hopelessly over my head here though. It has been too long since I have had to do something like this.

        Thank you again!

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        • #19
          Sorry, I wasn't sure how active the forum is.
          Should have checked back in sooner.
          Consolidating the previous math:

          E-factor/AV = 48 * 2.5^[3.322(log(mm RHA) - 1.4049)]

          3.322 ~= 1/log(2)
          1.4049 ~= log(25.4)

          Checking , the formula returns slightly different values thanks to rounding:
          300mm = 1255
          90mm = 255
          113mm = 345
          180mm = 639

          sub 1% differences are OK, I think.


          Rob

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          • #20
            Originally posted by robj3 View Post
            E-factor/AV = 48 * 2.5^[3.322(log(mm RHA) - 1.4049)]

            Rob
            Thanks Rob!

            I am going to go forward using this formula to make stats for some Soviet, Canadian, and Mexican systems as well as some updates for US and project equipment.

            This is a huge help! Thanks again.

            Stay tuned folks.

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            • #21
              Armbrust.


              SYSTEM
              Alternative Designations: Crossbow
              Date of Introduction: INA
              Proliferation: At least seven countries
              Description:
              Crew: 1
              Caliber (mm): 67
              Weight (kg): 6.3
              Length (mm): 850
              Rifling: None
              Breech Mechanism Type: N/A
              Rate of Fire (rd/min): N/A (disposable)
              Fire From Inside Building: Yes (see NOTES)
              SIGHTS
              Name: N/A
              Type: Reflex
              Magnification: None
              Location: Left side
              Sighting Range (m): INA
              Night Sights Available: INA
              VARIANTS (INA)
              AMMUNITION
              Name: INA
              Type: HEAT
              Range (m):
              Maximum: 1,500
              Effective AT: 300
              Flight Time (sec) @ 300 m: 1.5
              Penetration:
              Armor (mm): 300
              Reinforced Concrete (m): INA
              Muzzle Velocity(m/s): 210

              E-factor 1255

              Projectile mass: 1.0 kg
              Filler: RDX, 0.16 kg
              Using weapon(s): ARMBRUST antitank weapon
              Remarks: None


              Name Armbrust (updated)
              Cal. 67mm
              E-Factor = 1255 48 * 2.5^[3.322(log(300) - 1.4049)] = 1255.079738
              DPW = 451 ((0.16 / 0.563) x 1300) x 1.22 = 450.7282416
              Wt. (Empty) 6.3 kg
              Min. Range 50m
              Eff. Range 350m
              Max. Range 1500m
              Burst Radius 5m
              Type of Fire Single shot disposable
              Rate of Fire Single
              Feed Device n/a
              Feed Device Wt. n/a
              Basic Load 2
              Load Wt. 12.6 kg
              Total Wt.
              Additional Comments: A disposable, flashless, noiseless, recoilless gun firing a high explosive shell. The shell will penetrat 30 centimeters (300mm) or steel. The "backblast" from the weapon is made up of plastic flakes and is so short the firer can stand with a wall only 1 meter behind him.

              Found in Load out: #17
              Last edited by ArmySGT.; 04-05-2014, 07:57 PM.

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              • #22


                Name:Russian 122-mm Towed Howitzer D-30A
                Cal. 122mm
                E-Factor : See by type below.
                Wt. (Empty) 3.2 Metric Tons
                Min. Range Varies by ammunition type
                Eff. Range Varies by ammunition type
                Max. Range Varies by ammunition type
                Burst Radius by type Varies by ammunition type
                Type of Fire
                Rate of Fire 8 rpm burst / 6 rpm normal / 4 rpm sustained
                Feed Device Manual
                Feed Device Wt. n/a
                Basic Load 21 mixed type
                Load Wt. by type
                Total Wt.
                Additional Comments:The D-30A is a midlife product improvement of the D-30. The original D-30 was fielded in 1963 and the midlife product improvements occurred in the mid to late 1970s. The original D-30 is in use with at least 50 different countries.

                The D-30, also known as the M1963, replaced the older 122-mm howitzer M-30 (M1938). The original D-30 was fielded in 1963 and the midlife product improvements occurred in the mid to late 1970�s. The original D-30 is in use with at least 50 different countries. The 2A18M D-30A and D-30M are midlife product improvements of the D-30 that are currently in production by the Gosudarstvennoe Unitarnoe Predpriatie Zavod 9 [Vysokodispersnye Metallicheskiye Poroshki AO]. The D-30 features a unique three-trail carriage, a conspicuous boxy shield for the recuperator above the tube, and a small protective shield between the wheels. The gun has a semiautomatic, vertically sliding, wedge-type breechblock. It is towed muzzle-first by a truck or armored tractor, at speeds up to 80 kilometers per hour, with its trails folded under the barrel.

                The D-30 can be recognized by its unique three-trail carriage, the conspicuous box-like shield for the recoil-recuperator mechanism mounted above the tube, the multi-baffle muzzle brake, and the small protective shield fitted between the wheels. Early models of the D-30 had a multi-baffle muzzle brake while the D-30M has a double-baffle muzzle brake. The gun has a semiautomatic, vertically-sliding, wedge-type breechblock. It can be towed by a truck (Ural-375 or ZIL-131) or armored tractor at speeds up to 80 krn/hr. It is towed muzzle-first by a large lunette just under the muzzle brake with its trails folded under the barrel.

                The D-30 is found in the howitzer battalion of BTR-equipped motorized rifle regiments and in the artillery regiment of motorized rifle, tank, and airborne divisions. A battalion of D-30s is also being added to some tank regiments as an interim measure. These D-30s will eventually be replaced by a battalion of 122-mm self-propelled howitzers 2S1. The maximum effective range of either howitzer is 15,300 meters.

                In firing position, the crew of eight unhitches the gun, lowers the central firing jack, raising the wheels high enough to clear the trail legs, and spreads the two outer trails 120� on each side. The revolving mount permits 360� traverse and is equipped for high and low angles of fire, making it fully suitable for antitank defense. It is doubtful that full elevation is possible when the breech is immediately over a trail leg. The D-30 can also be equipped with a IR or passive night vision sights for direct fire.

                The D-30 fires FRAG-HE and HEAT-FS variable-charge, case-type, separate-loading ammunition. The D-30 has a special nonrotating, fin-stabilized, HEAT projectile which allows it to effectively engage armored vehicles with direct fire. The HEAT round can penetrate up to 460 mm of armor at any range. Other types of projectiles include chemical, illuminating (S-462 weighing 22.4 kg), smoke (D-462 weighing 22.3 kg), leaflet, flechette, and incendiary. Recently an RAP has been introduced with a maximum range of 21900 m.

                There are at least two chemical projectiles for the D-30, with the CW agent is dispersed by the explosion of a TNT bursting charge. The Sarin projectile weighs 22.2 kg with 1.3 kg of Sarin agent. The 122 mm Lewisite projectile weighs 23.1 kg with 3.3 kg of viscous Lewisite agent.


                SYSTEM
                Alternative Designations: 122-mm D-30A Lyagushka
                Date of Introduction: 1963
                Proliferation: At least 13 countries
                Description:
                Crew: 5 (section of 6)
                Carriage: D-30
                Combat Weight (mt): 3.2
                Chassis Length Overall (m):
                Travel Position: 5.4
                Firing Position: INA
                Height Overall (m): 1.6
                Width Overall (m):
                Travel Position: 1.9
                Firing Position: INA
                Towing Speed (km/h):
                Max Road: 60
                Max Off-Road: 25
                Max Cross-Country:
                Fording Depths (m): .5
                Emplacement Time (min): 1.5
                Displacement Time (min): 3.5
                Prime Mover: MT-LB; Ural-375, or equivalent

                ARMAMENT
                Main Armament:
                Caliber, Type, Name: 122-mm, 2A18M canon
                Barrel Length (cal): 38 (approximately)
                Rate of Fire (rpm):
                Burst: 8
                Normal: 6
                Sustained: 4
                Loader Type: Semi-automatic
                Breech Type: Vertical sliding wedge
                Muzzle Brake Type: Multi-baffle
                Traverse: (o):
                Left: 360
                Right: 360
                Total: 360
                Elevation (o) (-/+): -7/+70o
                FIRE CONTROL
                Indirect Fire: PG-1M Panoramic Telescope (PANTEL)
                Direct Fire: OP 4M-45
                Collimator: K-1
                Gun Display Unit: None
                Fire Control Computer: None
                VARIANTS
                Saddam: Iraqi produced version of the D-30
                D30J: Yugoslavian produced version of the D-30
                SP 122: Egyptian self-propelled howitzer (M109A2 chassis and
                turret with an Egyptian made D-30 howitzer).
                Type 85: Chinese self-propelled howitzer (Chinese Type 85 APC
                chassis and a licensed produced version of the D-30 in a semi-open
                superstructure.)

                MAIN ARMAMENT AMMUNITION
                Caliber, Type, Name:

                122-mm Frag-HE, OF-81
                Indirect Fire Range (m):
                Minimum Range: 1000
                Maximum Range: 15,300
                Complete Projectile Weight (kg): 21.76 (OF-56)
                Filler: TNT and amatol 3.46 kg
                DPW = 7031 ((3.46 / 0.563) x 1300) x 0.88 = 7030.62167
                Muzzle Velocity: 680 m/s
                Fuze Type: RGM-2 PD

                122-mm, HEAT-FS
                Direct Fire Range (m):
                Minimum Range: 0
                Maximum Range: 1000
                Armor Penetration (mm): 460 (@ 0o obliquity any range)
                E-factor = 2208. 48 * 2.5^[3.322(log(460) - 1.4049)]= 2208.385244
                DPW=
                Complete Projectile Weight (kg): 21.58

                Muzzle Velocity: 740 m/s
                Fuze Type: GPV-2 PIBD

                122-mm Frag-HE Rocket Assisted
                Indirect Fire Range (m):
                Minimum Range: INA
                Maximum Range: 21,900
                Complete Projectile Weight (kg): 21.76 (3OF-56)
                Filler: RDX/A1 4.31 kg
                DPW= 12141.5 ((4.31 / 0.563) x 1300) x 1.22 = 12141.49201
                Muzzle Velocity: INA
                Fuze Type: PD

                Other Ammunition Types: Incendiary, Chemical, Flechette,
                Semi-active laser-guided Kitolov-2M Frag-HE

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                • #23









                  Name AT-3 Malyutka (SAGGER)
                  Cal.
                  E-Factor = A model 1835 / C model 2597 48 * 2.5^[3.322(log(400 or 520) - 1.4049)]= 2208.385244
                  Wt. (10.9 / 11.4 kg) missile, 30.5 kg launcher + guidance
                  Eff. Range 500/500
                  Max. Range 3000/3000
                  Type of Fire
                  Rate of Fire 1
                  Feed Device 1 per man pack case (two per AT team). BMD-1, 1 on rail + 3 stowed
                  In each three-man team, the gunner carries a suitcase containing the control box, and two assistant gunners each carry one missile in a suitcase.
                  Feed Device Wt.
                  Basic Load - 1 guidance (gunner) + 2 launcher/missile case (assistants)
                  Total Wt.30.5 kg launcher + guidance
                  Additional Comments : AT-3 is classed by weight as portable (21-40 kg), rather than manportable (<21 kg). The launcher is also a missile carry case. The guidance panel can be located up to 15 meters from the launcher, and can control up to four launchers. If target is <1,000 meters from launcher, the operator can joystick the missile to target without using optics. Guidance elevation (o) is -5/ +10. Because the module is small and can be shifted,
                  elevation and field of view are operationally unlimited. Improved versions can be used on older launchers, but in the MCLOS mode.
                  The Slovenian Iskra TS-M thermal sight is available, with detection at 3,000 meters and recognition at 1,800 meters.
                  Any AT-3 can be modernized to Malyutka-2 with replacement of warhead and or replacement of specific warhead and motor components.
                  Last edited by ArmySGT.; 04-07-2014, 08:37 PM.

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                  • #24
                    This is too timely (and on point) not to share.

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                    • #25
                      recoilless rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M40_recoilless_rifle

                      Here is some info. Seems practical.

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                      • #26





                        SYSTEM
                        Alternative Designations: BAT (Battalion Antitank), and VARIANTS
                        Date of Introduction: 1953
                        Proliferation: At least 50 countries
                        Description:
                        Crew: 4 vehicle with dismount, 2 vehicle mount, 8 dismounted infantry
                        Caliber (mm): 106
                        Weight (kg): 130, 113 without the spotting rifle
                        Length (m): 3.4, with a 2.85 m barrel
                        Width (on M79 mount) (m): .8, 1.524 with the legs spread
                        Height (on M79 mount) (m): 1.3

                        ARMAMENT
                        Main Armament: 106-mm Recoilless rifle.
                        Bore: Rifled 36 grooves, rh. The actual bore size is 105 mm; but is referred to as 106 mm to avoid confusion with the failed 105-mm M27 gun system.
                        Breech Type: Interrupted thread , hand-operated
                        Recoil System: Vented breech
                        Feed: Manual
                        Traverse (o): 360
                        Elevation (o) (M79 Mount): -17/+65
                        Rate of Fire (rd/min): 5
                        Emplacement/displacement time (min): INA
                        Fire From Inside Building: No
                        Complete Round Weight (kg): 13
                        Muzzle Velocity (m/s): 570
                        Spotting Rifle: .50 cal M-8C, magazine-fed. It uses a .50 cal semi-auto spotting rifle mounted along the axis of the barrel to determine proper elevation for the 106-mm rifle. The round matched to M40 round flight ballistics, and holds a 20-round magazine.

                        SIGHTS
                        Name: Bofors Modernization Package
                        Daysight:
                        Name: Simrad LP101 laser day sight (in place of the ranging gun)
                        Others available: Computerized LASer Sight (CLASS)
                        Upgraded systems may have the Simrad laser sight in lieu of the ranging (spotting) gun.
                        Night Sights:
                        Name: NVL-11 Mk IV II sight with computer LRF
                        Range: 990 m.
                        Others available: Simrad KN250 II sight, other II and thermal sights

                        VARIANTS
                        M40A1: Initial fielded version of the rifle which was commonly exported, with the M-8C spotting rifle.
                        M40A2: Upgrade with an M79 mount.
                        M40A4: The latest fielded version, with the M27 tripod.
                        Other countries have produced the rifle, under license, and mounted it on various chassis.
                        Bofors Retrofit Program: Upgrade program, with the Simrad sights and the 3A-HEAT-T round.
                        The weapon can be porteed, carried on a vehicle pintel mount, then transferred to a ground semi-mobile tripod mount.
                        M79 Mount: Tripod, ground, or vehicle
                        M50 Ontos: Six-barrel mount on small tracked vehicle
                        PAK-66: Austrian M40 on two-wheel carriage

                        AMMUNITION
                        Name: M344A1
                        Type: HEAT
                        Range (m):
                        Maximum Effective: 1,350
                        Maximum Range: 2,745
                        Armor Penetration (mm CE): INA
                        E-factor = 1255 48 * 2.5^[3.322(log(300) - 1.4049)]= 1255.079738
                        DPW= 2332.149201
                        It uses 2.79lbs or 1 Kg of Comp B.
                        Complete Round Weight (kg): 16.8
                        Muzzle Velocity (m/s): 503

                        Name: 3A-HEAT-T (Bofors upgrade)
                        Type: HEAT-Tracer
                        Maximum Effective Range (m): 2,000
                        Armor Penetration (mm CE): 700 +
                        E-factor = 3847 48 * 2.5^[3.322(log(700) - 1.4049)]= 3846.98682
                        Complete Round Weight (kg): 14.5
                        Muzzle Velocity (m/s): 570

                        Name: M346A1
                        Type: HEP-T (HE plastic-tracer)
                        Filler:7.72 lb (3.501733 KG) Comp A3
                        DPW= 8085.70675
                        Maximum Range (m): 6,870
                        Complete Round Weight (kg): 16.95
                        Muzzle Velocity (m/s): 498

                        Name: M581
                        Type: APERS-T (antipersonnel-tracer) (flechette)
                        Fill (.5 g ea): 10,000 flechettes
                        Maximum Effective Range (m): 300
                        Complete Round Weight (kg): 18.73
                        Muzzle Velocity (m/s): 438

                        Name: HEAP M-DN
                        Type: HE antipersonnel (steel pellets)
                        Fill: 1,000 steel pellets
                        Maximum Effective Range (m): 1,500
                        Lethal Radius: 40
                        Complete Round Weight (kg): 16.4
                        Muzzle Velocity (m/s): 560

                        NOTES
                        The producer of the LAHAT gun-launch ATGM (pg 6-58) offers to produce a version for use in the M40 launcher. The tandem ATGM is a viable threat to all modern armored vehicles. Use requires a tripod-mounted laser guidance unit, as used with MT-12 and 2A45M AT guns.
                        The rifle produces a massive amount of noise and smoke which reveals its location. Thus a first round hit is critical.
                        Last edited by ArmySGT.; 04-17-2014, 01:03 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Here is an updated chart.

                          Explosive Relative Effectiveness Chart 1.0

                          Common Name(s) RE
                          Dynamite (40% Ammonia) 0.31
                          Ammonium Nitrate (AN + <0.5% H2O) 0.32
                          Dynamite (40% Gelatin) 0.32
                          Black Powder (75% KNO3 + 19% C + 6% S) 0.38
                          Dynamite (60% Ammonia) 0.40
                          Hexamine Dinitrate (HDN) 0.45
                          Dinitrobenzene (DNB) 0.45
                          Dynamite (40% Nitroglycerin) 0.49
                          HMTD (Hexamine Peroxide) 0.56
                          ANFO (94% AN + 6% Fuel Oil) 0.56
                          Dynamite (60% Gelatin) 0.57
                          TATP (Acetone Peroxide) 0.60
                          Tovex Extra (AN Water Gel) Commercial Product 0.60
                          Hydromite 600 (AN Water Emulsion) Commercial Product 0.60
                          Dynamite (60% Nitroglycerin) 0.62
                          ANNMAL (67% AN + 25% NM + 5% Al + 3% C) 0.65
                          Amatol (50% TNT + 50% AN) 0.68
                          Nitroguanidine 0.75
                          Trinitrotoluene (TNT) 0.75
                          Hexanitrostilbene (HNS or JD-X) 0.79
                          Nitrourea (N-nitrourea, 1-nitrourea or N-nitrocarbamide) 0.79
                          Amatol (80% TNT + 20% AN) 0.83
                          Nitrocellulose (13.5% N, NC) 0.83
                          Nitromethane (NM) 0.83
                          Diethylene Glycol Dinitrate (DEGDN) 0.88
                          Tritonal (80% TNT + 20% Aluminum Powder) 0.88
                          Triaminotrinitrobenzene (TATB) 0.88
                          Picric Acid (TNP) 0.90
                          Trinitrobenzene (TNB) 0.90
                          Tetrytol (70% Tetryl + 30% TNT) 0.90
                          Dynamite (75% NG + 23% Diatomite) 0.94
                          Tetryl (2,4,6-Trinitrophenylmethylnitramine) 0.94
                          Composition C3 (87% RDX) 1.00
                          Composition C4 (91% RDX) 1.00
                          Composition A3 (91% RDX) 1.00
                          Pentolite (56% PETN + 44% TNT) 1.00
                          Semtex 1A (76% PETN + 6% RDX) 1.01
                          Composition B (60% RDX + 40% TNT) 1.01
                          Composition A4 (97% RDX) 1.01
                          Composition H6 (45% RDX + 30% TNT + 20% Powdered Aluminum) 1.01
                          Cyclotol (70% RDX + 30% TNT) 1.01
                          Hydrazine Mononitrate 1.07
                          RISAL P (51% IPN + 28% RDX + 14% Al + 4% Mg + 0.7% Zr + 2% NC) 1.13
                          Nitroglycerin (NG) 1.16
                          Octol (80% HMX + 19% TNT + 1% DNT) 1.16
                          Gelatine (92% NG + 7% Nitrocellulose) 1.20
                          Erythritol tetranitrate (ETN) 1.20
                          NTO (Nitrotriazolon) 1.20
                          Hexogen (RDX) 1.20
                          Penthrite (PETN) 1.25
                          Ethylene glycol dinitrate (EGDN) 1.25
                          TNAZ (Trinitroazetidine) 1.28
                          HMX Grade A (Octogen) 1.28
                          HMX Grade B (Octogen) 1.28
                          HNIW (CL-20) 1.35
                          Hexanitrobenzene (HNB) 1.35
                          MEDINA (Methylene dinitroamine) 1.45
                          DDF (4,4'-Dinitro-3,3'-diazenofuroxan) 1.46
                          Octanitrocubane (ONC) 1.79

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by robj3 View Post
                            Sorry, I wasn't sure how active the forum is.
                            Should have checked back in sooner.
                            Consolidating the previous math:

                            E-factor/AV = 48 * 2.5^[3.322(log(mm RHA) - 1.4049)]

                            3.322 ~= 1/log(2)
                            1.4049 ~= log(25.4)

                            Checking , the formula returns slightly different values thanks to rounding:
                            300mm = 1255
                            90mm = 255
                            113mm = 345
                            180mm = 639

                            sub 1% differences are OK, I think.


                            Rob
                            Has anyone converted this formula to an Excel formula yet

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by nuke11 View Post
                              Has anyone converted this formula to an Excel formula yet
                              I have not. I am not sure of how to insert a logarithm into the equation.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ArmySGT. View Post
                                I have not. I am not sure of how to insert a logarithm into the equation.
                                For log 10 isn't it just LOG(A1). I just saved a version as excel97 with that formula so I think that has been supported for a while.

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