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  • #76
    I never thought Phoenix was logically required.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by cosmicfish View Post
      I can agree with all of that, but story play needs to balance against game world design - the existence of Phoenix team is so logical that their absence would be absurd, so have them be a thing but find some way to kill them off. Perhaps they were in one of the annexes and a cave-in took out the entire team in one go a few decades after the fall of PB.

      Originally posted by tsofian View Post
      I never thought Phoenix was logically required.
      Vehicles Gentlemen, Vehicles!

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      • #78
        Originally posted by ArmySGT. View Post
        Vehicles Gentlemen, Vehicles!
        It is sometimes difficult to talk about vehicles without talking about alternatives to vehicles. Not every problem can be solved with equipment, after all!

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        • #79
          Originally posted by tsofian View Post
          I never thought Phoenix was logically required.
          Not necessarily the specific group as described, but I cannot see why Morrow would not need and actively seek to recruit/create some level of "special operations" unit(s) to handle all missions that run-of-the-mill Recon and MARS teams could not handle. Like (going back to the vehicles discussion) groups in possession of nuclear weapons or M1 tanks or that used human shields, or whatever! Morrow could stock their own tanks or anti-ballistic missiles or specialized drones or whatever, but ultimately a handful of well-trained operators is probably going to be a better, cheaper, and more versatile solution.

          Is there a Phoenix team thread There should be a Phoenix team thread.

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          • #80


            Throwing weight above their class............ The future of counter battery

            Last edited by ArmySGT.; 09-18-2015, 08:33 PM. Reason: just wanted to see what was wrong with the link (it had an extra v=)

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            • #81
              That system is brutal!

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              • #82
                Would a trained AN/PPS-05 operator hear this a just a truck with trailer, a tight convoy of trucks or what

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                • #83
                  I don't know about that but an A-10 driver or an AH-64 gunner won't care.

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                  • #84
                    True, but doctrine would not have this deployed until air superiority had been achieved.

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                    • #85
                      I've been toying with Morrow Industry buildings that had protected and underground areas with items for the personnel not in cryosleep. A few are the depots used to store equipment for the upgrades and items withdrawn from service. a lot more are designated shelters, using storm shelter as a cover. All of the have X number of prewar pick ups, cargo trucks, some SUV's and every once in a while a security armored car. A scenario involving an ersatz frozen watch and ruthless Gypsy Truckers seeking the motherlode of parts and vehicles. Then the team converting a vehicle with an electric transmission and power source.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by mmartin798 View Post
                        Would a trained AN/PPS-05 operator hear this a just a truck with trailer, a tight convoy of trucks or what
                        The operator would see a huge radar reflection and have to decide from speed, distance, and range what that image could be.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by ArmySGT. View Post
                          The operator would see a huge radar reflection and have to decide from speed, distance, and range what that image could be.
                          From the AN/PPS-05 training videos I have watched, the operator stops the scan and listens to the returns and can determine from the different sounds between a single man walking, a squad walking, a Jeep, a 1 ton truck or a 2.5 ton truck.

                          This excerpt from an AN/PPS-15 training manual give an indication of what I mean:

                          5. Target Presentation. Target information is presented by the AN/PPS15(V)2, radar set by both visual and audible indications. The prime method of target indication is provided by the target audio in the operator's headset. Variations in the sounds heard in the headset provide an indication of the size and type of target(s) detected. Visual indications of range and azimuth are provided by digital indicators. In addition, a peaking indicator provides visual indication of signal strength which enables the operator to determine when the radar set antenna is oriented directly at the target. Alarm circuits also provide audible and visual indications of target detection as a tone from the alarm speaker and a blinking alarm indicator lamp. Only moving targets can be detected. Examples of moving targets are a man standing still but moving his arms, a man walking or running, and a moving vehicle. In any case, the target must have motion.

                          and here is a training video on the AN/PPS-05 to show exactly what I am talking about. It's only about 25 minutes long, but the part with the operation of the radar starts around the 14 minute mark:

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                          • #88
                            meanwhile has anyone considered the Ripsaw tank to replace the commando scout outperforms the scout in most categories. and has significant cargo capacity compared to the scout(or the XR311).
                            the best course of action when all is against you is to slow down and think critically about the situation. this way you are not blindly rushing into an ambush and your mind is doing something useful rather than getting you killed.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by bobcat View Post
                              meanwhile has anyone considered the Ripsaw tank to replace the commando scout outperforms the scout in most categories. and has significant cargo capacity compared to the scout(or the XR311).
                              The Ripsaw would be an ideal vehicle for Damocles in the later 4th edition dates.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by bobcat View Post
                                meanwhile has anyone considered the Ripsaw tank to replace the commando scout outperforms the scout in most categories. and has significant cargo capacity compared to the scout(or the XR311).
                                I always thought the CG/Textron vehicles were chosen because of ties to the Council of Tomorrow. It seemed implied any way.

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