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  • #61
    A couple of ideas that I have used when I played "First Contact".

    There was a series of courses at "Morrow U" to develop this skill set. It would have been run by someone like Les Stroud (Survivorman) or Bear Gryls. It also could be run by Wilderness S&R types.

    I agree with KISS as far as contents of "contact pack" A couple of things I ALWAYS asked the TL for before heading into "Seeking new life and new civilizations." They were:
    1) One or two pieces of Gold, 2 or 3 of silver
    2) 1-3 bottles of booze. (I envision the Trade Pack Booze being in airplane bottles, not large liter bottles.
    3) Simple Fishing Gear
    4) Best Marksman is in overwatch
    5) Personal radio is set for transmit only!

    A side note here. Most of the pictures I have seen of TMP personnel have looked military. No Offence, just saying. SO my "Frist Contact Specialist" had long hair, beard, etc. IF you are planning The Day + 5 years, no shaving equipment is not far fetched.

    My $0.02

    Mike

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    • #62
      Originally posted by ArmySGT. View Post
      Season is ramping up..... Come in the end of August or first part of September and clean up at yard sales.

      I have kerosene railroad lantern that I bought for $3.00 and a coleman 4 burn for $10.00.
      I got a nice large Coleman camp stove at a thrift store for $14! The large square 20F Coleman bag would be a good contact item, they also make nice cot mattresses in warmer climes.

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      • #63
        Lots of good thinking about the contents and use of the Contact Pack. I am intrigued that some people find owning good camping equipment as being out of the ordinary. Living in the Rocky Mountain west it is almost assumed that you have some camping gear and probably a few guns.

        I am planning to set my campaign in Rocky Mountains, starting in Colorado. Given the small number of nukes targeted for Colorado (with the exception of the Front Range) there would be lots of relatively untouched areas and the bulk of the state's population would be dead. This is a much better situation than either of the coasts or the industrial heartland.

        I am planning on a 4th edition campaign, likely using the 2017 EOTWAWKI date. When I contemplate believable Contact Pack contents I picture:

        Clothing is a mix of Carhartts, hunting clothes and a random mix of t-shirts. Perhaps an army jacket to mix it up.

        Gear would be well used mid range backpacking gear mixed with army surplus.

        Firearms would be a pistol along the lines of a Glock or some other commonly us handgun. The idea of a model 29 is a really strange and inappropriate choice. Long gun choices would be pump shotgun, .30-06 bolt action, or even a semi auto AR-15. There are huge numbers of AR-15s in private hands throughout much of the country. It would not stand out 3-5 years after the war and might help explain why the carrier had survived.

        Food would be canned goods and perhaps some freeze dried meals or MREs. Lots of those around, even if they are a few years past date. They would be the items a survivor might hoard for travel or to flee from a bad situation.

        Luxury items for trade or to break the ice would be chocolates, disposable razors, stale cigarettes or chewing tobacco, small bottles of hot sauce, prescription pain killers, condoms, AA batteries and duct tape.

        One thing to keep in mind is that a co-ed team might do well to have a woman as the contact person, or perhaps a male female team posing as a couple. Either is likely to be perceived as less of a threat to a community than a single guy.

        Perhaps a set of keys for the mythical truck that broke down 15 miles back. Maybe a broken part from said vehicle that you a hunt for a replacement for.

        A saddle for the horse that you lost 3 days ago

        A battered, non working MP3 player, with a concealed transmitter.

        Probably a well worn hunting knife or even a machete.

        Definitely a scruffier looking team member with shaggy hair and probably a beard for the contact person. But none of that hipster BS with mutton chops and ironic handlebar mustache. Other survivors would just see shooting him as a service to good taste and the future of humanity.

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        • #64
          The other loadouts go through updates, the contact kit would as well. Unlike the players, Project planners would know trends and what wouldn't raise eyebrows at that time. Some silver dollars and pre '64 junk silver might be a good addition to the pack as well.

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          • #65
            Items from contributors to this list; minus the insurance claims adjuster.

            .30-06 bolt action
            8'x6' tarp
            can opener
            civilian hiking pack
            flask of whiskey
            military poncho liner
            military style 1qt canteen with cup
            multitool
            Savage Axis .223
            100' of 550 cord
            1-3 bottles of booze
            2 cans of soup
            2 carabiners
            20F Coleman bag
            3 ears of corn
            3 or 4 16/20 oz soda bottles.
            4 tent stakes
            50 rounds of loose ammo
            80 beef bullion cubes
            A battered, non working MP3 player, with a concealed transmitter
            A buckskin wrap containing 14 oz of smoked dried meat.
            A film container containing 1/2 oz cannabis with small wood carved pipe.
            A piece of metal wrapped in duct tape for an improvised knife.
            a pretty well worn bike
            A tupperware container filled with peanuts.
            AA batteries
            Bandana, Neckercheif, Red 1
            Bath Tissue 2-Ply 550sheet, Roll
            Belt, Leather 1
            Boot Knife
            Boots, Hiking, Leather, "Kastinger" 1 Pair
            Bungee Cord x 2
            Can Opener (P-38) x 2
            Candles
            Canteen 1 Liter Colapasable
            Canteen 1 Liter Cover
            Canteen 2 Liter
            Canteen 2 Liter Cover
            Canteen Cup & stand
            Carbine, Marlin 1894, Cal. 44 Magnum 1
            Cartridge, .44 Magnum 30
            Cartridge, .44 Magnum 50
            chewing tobacco
            chocolates
            Cigarette Lighter (Multifuel)
            civvie backpack
            coleman 4 burn
            condoms
            Deck of Cards (Paper Box)
            Die x2
            disposable razors
            duct tape
            Flask, Hip, containing Scotch 12 oz
            Food, Canned 1 Days ration 3
            freeze dried meals
            Glock
            Hat, Felt, floppy "crusher", white in color 1
            Holster, Leather 1
            Jacket, Denim, "Levis" 1
            kerosene railroad lantern
            Knfie fork spoon
            large Coleman camp stove
            Leather Man tool (Pliers)
            Leatherman Micra (Scissors)
            Lensatic Sighting Compass
            Magnesium Fire Starter
            Mess Kit (Stainless KFS,pan,tray)
            Mess Kit Bag
            Military canteen on a leather belt
            Mini Binoculars
            MREs
            one liter Mt Dew bottle
            One or two pieces of Gold, 2 or 3 of silver
            Pacer Beads
            Pack and personal items, assorted
            Pack, Nylon (contents listed)
            Pack, Nylon 1
            Pencil x 3
            Personal Defense Spray
            Phone books (improvised TP)
            pre '64 junk silver
            prescription pain killers
            pump shotgun
            raw vodka or whiskey
            Revolver, M-29, Cal. .44 magnum w/ 6 1/2 bbl 1
            semi auto AR-15
            Shell, 12 Guage 30
            Shelter Half
            Shirt, Work, Cotton Flannel, Plaid in color 2
            Shotgun, Remington 870, 12 Guage 1
            silver dollars
            Simple Fishing Gear
            Single Edged Razor Blade x 10
            skinning and butchering tools
            Small Arms Cleaning Kit
            small bottles of hot sauce
            Small Sewing Kit
            Socks, Wool 4 Pair
            Solo Stove
            stale cigarettes
            Super Glue, Tube 3g .10 oz
            sweat shirt from the university that you attended possibly
            Swiss Army Knife
            Tactical Memo Book (3.5" x 6" / 60 pages)
            the last 100 pages of a paper back book. (used as toilet paper)
            Twine
            Underwear
            Wool Blanket
            Last edited by ArmySGT.; 01-06-2016, 06:54 PM.

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            • #66
              The above list formated into Food, Shelter, Clothing, Tool, Weapon, Trade.

              Food
              Food
              1-3 bottles of booze
              2 cans of soup
              3 ears of corn
              80 beef bullion cubes
              A buckskin wrap containing 14 oz of smoked dried meat.
              A tupperware container filled with peanuts.
              flask of whiskey
              Flask, Hip, containing Scotch 12 oz
              Food, Canned 1 Days ration 3
              freeze dried meals
              MREs

              Shelter
              20F Coleman bag
              4 tent stakes
              8'x6' tarp
              Shelter Half
              Wool Blanket

              Clothing
              military poncho liner
              Bandana, Neckercheif, Red 1
              Belt, Leather 1
              Boots, Hiking, Leather, "Kastinger" 1 Pair
              Hat, Felt, floppy "crusher", white in color 1
              Holster, Leather 1
              Jacket, Denim, "Levis" 1
              sweat shirt from the university that you attended possibly
              Underwear
              Socks, Wool 4 Pair
              Shirt, Work, Cotton Flannel, Plaid in color 2

              Tool
              100' of 550 cord
              2 carabiners
              3 or 4 16/20 oz soda bottles.
              A battered, non working MP3 player, with a concealed transmitter
              A piece of metal wrapped in duct tape for an improvised knife.
              a pretty well worn bike
              AA batteries
              Bath Tissue 2-Ply 550sheet, Roll
              Boot Knife
              Bungee Cord x 2
              can opener
              Can Opener (P-38) x 2
              Candles
              Canteen 1 Liter Colapasable
              Canteen 1 Liter Cover
              Canteen 2 Liter
              Canteen 2 Liter Cover
              Canteen Cup & stand
              Cigarette Lighter (Multifuel)
              civilian hiking pack
              civvie backpack
              coleman 4 burner stove
              duct tape
              kerosene railroad lantern
              Knfie fork spoon
              large Coleman camp stove
              Leather Man tool (Pliers)
              Leatherman Micra (Scissors)
              Lensatic Sighting Compass
              Magnesium Fire Starter
              Mess Kit (Stainless KFS,pan,tray)
              Mess Kit Bag
              Military canteen on a leather belt
              military style 1qt canteen with cup
              Mini Binoculars
              multitool
              one liter Mt Dew bottle
              Pacer Beads
              Pack, Nylon 1
              Pencil x 3
              Phone books (improvised TP)
              Simple Fishing Gear
              Single Edged Razor Blade x 10
              skinning and butchering tools
              Small Arms Cleaning Kit
              Small Sewing Kit
              Solo Stove
              Super Glue, Tube 3g .10 oz
              Swiss Army Knife
              Tactical Memo Book (3.5" x 6" / 60 pages)
              the last 100 pages of a paper back book. (used as toilet paper)
              Twine

              Weapon
              .30-06 bolt action
              Savage Axis .223
              50 rounds of loose ammo
              Carbine, Marlin 1894, Cal. 44 Magnum
              Cartridge, .44 Magnum 30
              Cartridge, .44 Magnum 50
              Glock
              Personal Defense Spray
              pump shotgun
              Revolver, M-29, Cal. .44 magnum w/ 6 1/2 bbl 1
              semi auto AR-15
              Shell, 12 Gauge 30
              Shotgun, Remington 870, 12 Gauge 1

              Trade
              A film container containing 1/2 oz cannabis with small wood carved pipe.
              chewing tobacco
              chocolates
              condoms
              Deck of Cards (Paper Box)
              Die x2
              disposable razors
              One or two pieces of Gold, 2 or 3 of silver
              pre '64 junk silver
              prescription pain killers
              raw vodka or whiskey
              silver dollars
              small bottles of hot sauce
              stale cigarettes

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              • #67
                Contact Pack.pdf

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                • #68
                  How I would go, on the assumption that the disguise is a traveler in the middle of a long trek - origin and destination both picked to be "out of range" of the local community:

                  Food
                  Nothing perishable ("holy crap, how do you have peanuts"), nothing that would give anything away ("deer jerky haven't been deer around for 3 years!"). Story is that they make camp every week or so to hunt and gather, but just ran out and were looking to set up camp today anyway...

                  8 randomly selected cans of food, call it 4-8 days of back-up rations.
                  Small pot
                  Plate or bowl, metal or durable plastic
                  Cup, metal or durable plastic
                  Utensil set, metal or durable plastic
                  Can opener
                  Dish soap, small bottle
                  Bag and 50' of cord, for suspending food away from scavengers

                  Shelter
                  Sleeping bag or wool blanket, a little warmer than pre-war climate required.
                  Either a small tent, shelter half, or two small tarps.
                  Stakes and ~100ft of cord.

                  Clothing
                  Boots, combat or hiking, 1 pair
                  Socks, wool, 2 pair
                  Sock liners, poly, 4 pair
                  Pants, denim or canvas or BDU, 2 pair
                  Belt
                  Underpants, assorted, 4 pair
                  Undershirt, assorted, 4
                  Shirt, denim or BDU or similar, 2
                  Hat
                  Outerwear appropriate to the pre-war climate, to include at minimum a waterproof/resistant jacket, possibly sweaters or sweatshirts, and up to full cold weather gear.

                  Tool
                  Set of USGS or similar maps showing the surrounding area.
                  Compass
                  Pencils, 2-4
                  Book, survival, including info on edible plants
                  First aid kit with antiseptic and gauss bandages
                  Crank-powered flashlight (may include radio)
                  Flint and steel or other reusable firestarter
                  Tinder, small bag
                  Bic lighter or a few matches for emergency firestarter
                  Knife, folding or fixed, usable for butchering, camp work, and fighting
                  Sharpening stone
                  Duct tape, partial roll
                  Sewing kit
                  4 liters of durable water storage - canteens, camelbacks, Nalgene, whatever
                  Water purification tablets for when you can't boil
                  Backpack, military or civilian, external or internal
                  Waterproof bag for things that must stay dry
                  Toothbrush
                  Half-used bar of soap in a bag or case
                  Razor, whatever type the team member prefers - they need to explain being relatively well groomed!
                  Towel

                  Weapon
                  Pistol, semi-auto or revolver, in a standard TMP caliber
                  Pistol holster
                  Pistol ammunition (30 rounds) and magazines (2, if applicable)
                  Long arm, rifle or shotgun, in a standard TMP caliber
                  Sling
                  Long arm ammunition (50 rounds) and magazines (3, if applicable)

                  Trade - pick 3-5
                  Alcohol, medicinal or recreational, 12-25.6 oz
                  Batteries, unopened "small" pack, any size
                  Condoms, pack of 12
                  Toilet paper, 2 rolls
                  Hard candy, 4 oz
                  Hot sauce, 4 oz
                  Lighter fluid, 4 oz
                  Salt, 4 oz
                  Sugar, 8 oz
                  Thermometer and tweezers, 1 each
                  Underwear, 1 unopened pack of 3-4, inappropriate for bearer
                  Jewelry, 2-3 pieces "cheap" gold

                  NO:
                  Medicines
                  Drugs other than alcohol
                  Nothing that can easily be used as a weapon against the team


                  Everything in italics is picked by the Morrow crew responsible for placing the team, so whoever has the contact pack is expected to spend a little time familiarizing themselves with the contents before trying to use it. Everything else is put together by the person supposed to use it, and can be supplemented with a few items of their choice above and beyond their regular personal allotment.
                  Last edited by cosmicfish; 01-09-2016, 09:34 AM. Reason: Added some hygiene supplies!

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                  • #69
                    My new candidate for a sidearm in the contact pack.

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                    • #70
                      If we assume they expected radiation, part to construct or a constructed KFM might be part of the kit.

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