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Main problem with all of this is time and resources. A Morrow Team has little of both. They have what they can carry and honestly while there vehicle can keep going barring an accident they will run short of food eventually and the teams are not made of badass Special Forces. These are ordinary people given some training and let loose. There not going to have the training or time to observe a town or village, there gonna have 24-72 hours before they need to make a decision. And the only way to get that is to go in or use more direct means. Like kidnapping that sheepherder and pumping him/her for information or looking for the few merchants on the road and asking them for a lay of the land. The lovely toys like satellites and GPS just won't be there. Even Drones as small as they are today come with a price of power time before they need recharging. Make them big and they take up space needed for other gear.
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I realize that in the game the teams don't have all the equipment and synergy that the project was designed to have, but the plan should expect things to work and should do all it can to protect its resources.
Even though I never plan my project to fail there was a game logic to my 2 man teams, it would allow for a character replacement without the team getting all the equipment from another bolthole.Comment
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One simple tactical solution is to claim to be lost.
"We were travelling on foot with a small group from the outskirts of Big City on the way to Other Big City because of Reasons. About a week ago, our guide and a few others died due to Tragic Accident, leaving us short of equipment and with minimal guidance. We've been walking roughly Direction for the past week, but with so few of us left we've been trying to lay low and avoid contact as much as possible. Can you tell us where the <censored> we are, and maybe sell us some food"
Regardless, we no longer seem to be talking about the actual Contact Pack.Comment
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OK, went camping this weekend with some friends and looked to see what everyone had. My buddy Gunther had a Marine Corp pack with a civvie canteen and a good sleeping bag, two days of food and one change of clothes. No tent, his wife Angie had a really old (I swear it was made in the 60's!) civvie pack with tent, bedroll, clothes, cooking gear, and a days worth of food and no canteen. Jen came with only a small pack and a bedroll and only a single days worth of food, a small two man tent and a small water bottle on a string attached to her pack. My own gear was about 60 pounds of gear and had everything but weapons. By and large that's what I expect refugees and early apocalypse survivors to scrounge up.
For the record. Solo Stove. Best buy I ever made.Comment
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The Contact Pack was designed to fit in 5 years (is that the planned wake-up time) after the war. They aren't going to be "early apocalypse survivors" at that point, they are going to be well-seasoned and equipped travelers. They could be refugees, but then the question becomes, "refugees from what" Don't want to cause a panic as they look for pursuing invaders, or undercut your story when those invaders don't appear!Originally posted by stormlion1 View PostComment
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Originally posted by cosmicfish View Post
Yes, five years was planned wake up time. As for well seasoned and equipped I kind of doubt part of that. Most gear will be worn down with constant use and pretty patchwork and patched up. Most gear isn't all that well made afterall unless you spend a lot of money on it. Heck most common sleeping bags are rated for about 40 degree's. Not the best thing for cold winter nights unless your going to modify it somehow. A contact team that shows up with good looking gear and clothes will stick out more than a seasoned traveler with patchwork gear.Comment
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I agree that there will be wear, but considering the relative post-apocalyptic durability of equipment compared to people, I don't think it needs to be excessive - it isn't that unreasonable to be worn but still fully functional. And more importantly, the equipment they have will be reasonably complete. As I mentioned up-thread, five years post war the vast majority of people will be where they need to be and will have little incentive to travel on foot cross-country with inadequate gear. They will either stay where they are or get a complete kit.Comment
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Realistic contact pack
hiking boots
khaki pants
light color (white, light blue, etc.) polo shirt with embroidered logo on left chest
bright colored (red, orange, lime green, etc.) windbreaker with silkscreen logo on the left chest and silkscreen printed "Disaster Relief" or "Disaster Assesment" on the back
point and shoot digital camera
storage clipboard with extra pens and scores of claim forms
hundreds of business cards
reuseable, refillable plastic water bottle with an attached cross chest lanyard
The logos are those affliated with various insurance companies.
The contact person can now walk out of the trees and present himself as an insurance claims agent doing follow up claims from the nuclear disaster five years ago.Comment
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Now that would be useful for a HILARIOUS scenario!Originally posted by RandyT0001 View PostComment
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<Local sheriff/magistrate/elder> An _insurance_ auditorOriginally posted by stormlion1 View Post
<Local scout> Yeah, that's when we shot him, yer honor.
"Let's roll." Todd Beamer, aboard United Flight 93 over western Pennsylvania, September 11, 2001.Comment
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TIP
The Insurers Project
I just had to do this.
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for a contact pack i typically go with:
1 civilian hiking pack
1 8'x6' tarp
4 tent stakes
100' of 550 cord
2 carabiners
1 military style 1qt canteen with cup
80 beef bullion cubes
1 can opener
2 cans of soup
3 ears of corn
1 flask of whiskey
1 military poncho liner
1 multitool
1 Savage Axis .223
50 rounds of loose ammo
as for approach i would have my recon teams conduct an area recon before sending anyone to make direct contact. that way they don't send their face-man into a slaver town or worse. this would also allow them to speak with any hunting parties before entering the town to gather further valuable data.the best course of action when all is against you is to slow down and think critically about the situation. this way you are not blindly rushing into an ambush and your mind is doing something useful rather than getting you killed.Comment
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Minor details like a mix of civvie, military and Scouting stuff.Originally posted by kato13 View PostComment
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Some prewar hunting gear would be a nice touch for cover, until they meet lower tech survivors. My "Cooperstown" was an attempt to keep experienced PC's guessing with a 1940's-50's vibe.Originally posted by bobcat View PostComment
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Season is ramping up..... Come in the end of August or first part of September and clean up at yard sales.Originally posted by stormlion1 View Post
I have kerosene railroad lantern that I bought for $3.00 and a coleman 4 burn for $10.00.Comment
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