Team Cache separate updates?

[ArmySGT.]

Digging up a 2 meter by 2 meter cube and replacing it quickly with a completely new and loaded 2 meter by 2 meter cube.

Seems reasonably easy to me and with how many are positioned off routes near a geolocation marker relatively simple to do so with not so much deception.

So Teams are buried over time in 3rd canon the Boltholes were unearthed and team equipment plus vehicles were updated.

With this in mind, how would you go about updating cache contents What would you insert Would you increase the size or the number of caches Would you give the Team a cache packing list in their bolthole for each cache

[Project_Sardonicus]

interesting question I think the 2 things that a team would really want that might not have been so feasible in the mid 80s would be.

1 A tough, water proof laptop or better still a pad. With files on upto date maps, how to guides, etc etc.

2 A small drone like this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeywell_RQ-16_T-Hawk giving every recon team, the ability to carry out some sort of over the horizon air reconnaissance.

3 A decent mini camera with hd recording.

[nuke11]

I never liked the idea of going back and opening up all of the caches for the teams and inserting new equipment. This in itself is a security nightmare.

I always thought the best was to do a map update for the team in the bolt hole and just mark the old caches as supplementary and give them new primary caches instead

If you want to search for a USGS Benchmark (now managed by the National Geodetic Survey) this interactive map is a nice way to find the benchmarks used : https://www.ngs.noaa.gov/datasheets/

And some interesting information : http://gisgeography.com/survey-bench...tion-geocache/

[ArmySGT.]

I wouldn't be inclined to give the PC six additional caches. I would do as you suggest and have the old ones replaced. However, I would shunt the locations to the Combined Group Leader and the Regional Base Commander.

The full loadout plus caches is already a Monty Haul game in my experience.

[Craig67]

A packing list for sure, I would put in on the hard drive in the vehicle computer.

Something I've been thinking about are over the snow vehicles. I would want to run a campaign in the northern US/ southern Canada, so snow is an issue. The V150's have only limited ability in the snow (yes, even with chains on the tires) so a BV206 seems essential for each team in snow country. I would put this in a "super cache" with all the team's extra winter equipment.

Another idea is for each team to have a super sized reconstruction cache. This would have a large selection of reconstruction supplies and tools for issue to the locals.

The other four caches would be the standard resupply caches.

[mmartin798]

I never liked the idea of going back and opening up all of the caches for the teams and inserting new equipment. This in itself is a security nightmare.

I always thought the best was to do a map update for the team in the bolt hole and just mark the old caches as supplementary and give them new primary caches instead

If you want to search for a USGS Benchmark (now managed by the National Geodetic Survey) this interactive map is a nice way to find the benchmarks used : https://www.ngs.noaa.gov/datasheets/

And some interesting information : http://gisgeography.com/survey-bench...tion-geocache/

The security of digging up caches and replacing the contents might not be so scary. Using the resources you supplied and doing a little extra reading, private organization can create survey benchmarks and, assuming they follow all the procedures for bluebooking them, get them in the NGS database. It is not unreasonable that some company owned by Morrow Industries might be in the business of wireless data transmission and wants to create some benchmarks for their convenience. Routine maintenance of the towers and the occasional major upgrade to the system (replacing the backup generator for example) would provide some camouflage. The number of sites can easily increase once the cellular startup, P-Morrow Cellular, begins growing out is own network of antennas so they don't have to rely on other carriers. This would allow a benchmark to be placed conveniently near any cache the Project desired.

[ArmySGT.]

A packing list for sure, I would put in on the hard drive in the vehicle computer.

Something I've been thinking about are over the snow vehicles. I would want to run a campaign in the northern US/ southern Canada, so snow is an issue. The V150's have only limited ability in the snow (yes, even with chains on the tires) so a BV206 seems essential for each team in snow country. I would put this in a "super cache" with all the team's extra winter equipment.

Another idea is for each team to have a super sized reconstruction cache. This would have a large selection of reconstruction supplies and tools for issue to the locals.

The other four caches would be the standard resupply caches.

Play Operation Damocles...... Commando Scout and XR-311 with snow kits containing parkas and snow shoes.

[Craig67]

Play Operation Damocles...... Commando Scout and XR-311 with snow kits containing parkas and snow shoes.

2 really bad vehicles for winter use. I have Damocles, it was the first adventure I bought for TMP.
The winter clothing issue isn't bad, it was about the same stuff I was issued in the Canadian Army at that time, I survived plenty of time in the field with it. The group equipment needs some work, a gasoline stove with 24hrs of fuel You've got to be kidding ! Needs a proper winter tent with liner, a folding wood stove and a bow saw. Now you can keep the tent warm, melt snow/ ice for water, cook food and dry clothing.

[RandyT0001]

Needs a proper winter tent with liner, a folding wood stove and a bow saw. Now you can keep the tent warm, melt snow/ ice for water, cook food and dry clothing.

Wow, just make it easy on the team. How about some inflatable chairs for them to sit in while camping in the tent The whole point of Morrow Project is to make the PCs suffer.

[Craig67]

Wow, just make it easy on the team. How about some inflatable chairs for them to sit in while camping in the tent The whole point of Morrow Project is to make the PCs suffer.

Damocles is already a tough adventure, no sense adding frostbite and amputated fingers/toes to it.

Really though, would you send a team into a winter environment without the proper survival kit

[cosmicfish]

Updating has always seemed like a tricky business - not only is there the risk of exposure, but you are giving teams equipment they haven't been trained to use, potentially in a crucial and time-sensitive environment.

I think the best option would be to leave teams alone, then give updated gear to newer teams in the area - they have their own caches, plus the updated gear to disseminate to other teams (with training!) as prudent. If you are going to give them updated gear blind, it needs to be gear they can use without training. No point giving someone frozen in the 70's a tablet computer without someone to train them on it, but you could definitely give them a plug-and-play backend to the autonav.

[Project_Sardonicus]

Of course an alternative result maybe that teams get equipment removed from caches.

The project may decide it needs to concentrate certain key systems with other teams, or replace but not update.

I mean for example how many Dragon, TOW and Stingers were even made in the 1980s So perhaps the project takes an executive decision to create a special MARS regional armoury with a dozen of each.

Which come from what the teams thought would be their equipment

[rcaf_777]

2 really bad vehicles for winter use. I have Damocles, it was the first adventure I bought for TMP.
The winter clothing issue isn't bad, it was about the same stuff I was issued in the Canadian Army at that time, I survived plenty of time in the field with it. The group equipment needs some work, a gasoline stove with 24hrs of fuel You've got to be kidding ! Needs a proper winter tent with liner, a folding wood stove and a bow saw. Now you can keep the tent warm, melt snow/ ice for water, cook food and dry clothing.

Like this

[ArmySGT.]

Like this

I will attest from personal experience..... that style of stove is just garbage. It is all riveted together and you can't get in and clean it. Ours was so fouled that it barely produced a flame even after building a tripod and hoisting the can almost 8 feet off the ground.

The round "Yukon" stoves are far, far better. Honestly, the whole drip fuel thing was a pain in the ass and I blame the regulators dribbling out diesel fuel. Stoke a Yukon with wood or coal and they will glow a nice cherry red.

I would give them the round Yukon or one of these THESE three dog or four dog guide stoves with a baker and water boiler. Early teams would get the Yukon and 90's or later the civvie stove based on availability.

Seriously, if you see a round Yukon for sale somewhere; snatch that baby up.

The only thing the "New" stove comes with that is good... the thermo electric fan. Set that directly on the stove and it will begin circulating heat.

We are talking about the Morrow Project though...... So you have a lovely fusion powersource parked outside. A high output electric heater will do just fine without diesel, kerosene, or firewood needing collected. Won't smother you with carbon monoxide while your sleeping either.

[mmartin798]

We are talking about the Morrow Project though...... So you have a lovely fusion powersource parked outside. A high output electric heater will do just fine without diesel, kerosene, or firewood needing collected. Won't smother you with carbon monoxide while your sleeping either.

I think you still want the wood burner as well. After all, you may have set up a base camp with your tents and then want to take the boys ice fishing out of the turret of the V-150. The folks at camp still need to stay warm.