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  • #16
    Originally posted by Project_Sardonicus View Post
    Say you've got an Ag team working to reclaim hundreds of acres of farm land and a med team starting up a field hospital. What do you do when say 200 desperate brigands turn up or maybe a unit of rogue ex military with tanks And you've only got a mixture of 30 MARS and Recon, would you just turn around pack up and leave
    First, you've obviously experienced a pretty big recon/intelligence failure in this scenario! But in that case you retreat, preserving as much as possible, and call for reinforcements.

    Second, under a fully operational Project that scenario shouldn't happen. Recon should be identifying groups like that before the Ag teams are awake, and they should be addressed by larger sets of Teams possibly assisted by locally raised militia.

    Originally posted by Project_Sardonicus View Post
    What level of firepower would be appropriate Perhaps a drone or cargo plane armed with cluster bombs Or would a simple long range rocket with a sarin warhead How about a very small and precise nuke
    MARS Teams should be able to handle this - the Project is not designed for standup war on this scale, but they should have advantages of mobility, range, and sensors that should allow them to take out the tanks and other vehicles before they are a significant threat. If the enemy is powerful enough, escalate to higher authorities who have access to aircraft, Phoenix Team, and if necessary fusion charges.

    I would not under any circumstance give the Project access to lethal chemical weapons. Too uncontrollable. If the world is still that hostile, the Project needs to go back to sleep until the fighting has died down some more.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by cosmicfish View Post
      Huh, not sure if I always missed that (never spent much time looking at the missiles since they always seemed irrelevant) or just forgot about it. That it exists in the inventory is highly problematic, I am curious about how they were distributed.

      Also... did the original authors not really believe in the idea of war crimes The whole game is predicated on the horrors of total NBC warfare, and yet it seems the Project is just a bit of weaponized anthrax away from restarting the whole thing!
      "War Crimes" is dependent on a working criminal justice system. But I never issued them in my campaigns. You'd need a fusion powered plant and a stock pile of crude. Vehicle fuel for reconstruction would be my priority anyway. They are in Engineer caches as special gear.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by .45cultist View Post
        "War Crimes" is dependent on a working criminal justice system.
        I would argue that crimes need only recognition, the systems for dealing with them, whether formal or informal, are secondary. So long as we agree that theft is wrong, for example, then it remains wrong whether we deal with it by jury trial, lynch mob, or personal retribution (which may also be wrong, but that's another story). After the war, after the nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons have destroyed the world, I do not think the population would need a formal tribunal to look at the Project firing sarin gas rockets and decide that they were, at best, bad guys who might be on the same side, and at worst, just bad guys.

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        • #19
          The Morrow project's stated purpose is to reinstitute the US constitution, which I think means trial by jury, habeas corpus and so on

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ChalkLine View Post
            The Morrow project's stated purpose is to reinstitute the US constitution, which I think means trial by jury, habeas corpus and so on
            Sure, but that doesn't mean everything is lawless until that happens. And even if there is no one to prosecute the Project, they can still be held accountable to the populace, even if they just ally with someone else.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by cosmicfish View Post
              Sure, but that doesn't mean everything is lawless until that happens. And even if there is no one to prosecute the Project, they can still be held accountable to the populace, even if they just ally with someone else.
              Oh yeah, I mean that exactly. The idea is they have to uphold themselves to a base standard of behaviour that is quite high. They are literally bringing law (and not 'personal law') to a lawless land

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