The Landmaster

[Slar]

Does anyone have this thing written up I'm trying to put together a Basic Load for it. That, and a line drawing from the side, similar to how the V-150's and such are drawn, would be great. Can anyone help Been looking all night...

[CraigD6er]

The best I can find so far is from DeviantArt

https://www.deviantart.com/braden1986/art/Landmaster-371304497

I guess the basic load depends on who has it and what it's intended for; recon, strike, science etc.

[Slar]

Ouch

The side-mounted MGs are "30 caliber," so I am assuming 7.62x51mm, and likely going with the MAG 60/30, normally used in aircraft.

The fixed forward guns I'm thinking M85, even though they apparently suck.

That "missile launcher" up top is actually a pair of 7-tube 2.75" rocket pods, most likely an XM157A, firing unguided rockets.

I can probably figure out the length and such by using the length of the rocket pod, and using the pod as a ruler.

[Slar]

Interesting version...

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/98/63/f2/9863f2878539714026349c7b82a532c9.jpg

[Desert Mariner]

Length and a very few more stats are included in this 1977 Popular Mechanics article. I don't have the entire issue and don't recall where I actually found this.

[Slar]

That helps a bit.

35' long. From that, we can get all the other measurements. Awesome. Thanks!

[StainlessSteelCynic]

For what it's worth, those .30 calibre guns might actually be the Browning M1919 which is normally found in .30-06 (I say normally because some countries converted them to 7.62x51mm)
The M1919 would be a more compact design for turret use than using one of the 7.62x51mm machine guns.

[Slar]

Brownings

I have the early Project using the M1919A6 in 7.62x51mm, and also issuing M14s, with a modified Garand as the Sniper/Marksman's rifle (before the M21 was standardized). But then, I have the Project using a bunch of oddball weapons based on a little reality and some pure conjecture.

But anyway, the MAG 60/30 could easily be a replacement for the original M1919, with some units getting the newer weapon, and other, older units still having the older weapon.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

If you're using the MAG 60-30 for vehicle use you could easily substitute it for the MAG 60-40. Although designed as a co-ax gun, it's probably got more usefulness than the 60-30 version because it's a typical practice to issue ancillary items such as the butt stock and the bipod so that the co-ax MAG can be taken out of the vehicle and used as a normal infantry machine gun by the vehicle crew.

[Slar]

Shit...

If you're using the MAG 60-30 for vehicle use you could easily substitute it for the MAG 60-40. Although designed as a co-ax gun, it's probably got more usefulness than the 60-30 version because it's a typical practice to issue ancillary items such as the butt stock and the bipod so that the co-ax MAG can be taken out of the vehicle and used as a normal infantry machine gun by the vehicle crew.

Glad you said this. It was supposed to be the 60/40. I put down the wrong number, and it ended up in every entry...

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Glad you said this. It was supposed to be the 60/40. I put down the wrong number, and it ended up in every entry...

I feel your pain, I've made similar mistakes on player handouts and not realised until after I had printed the sheets!
Hopefully you caught the error before you had players asking you about it

[LBraden]

I skip the forums for a while (mostly due to wonders of issues, and no real gaming groups) to see the picture I posted up of the Landmaster done (yes, that's my DA account) however.

The source I had listed them as AN/M2 Calibre 50's (the ones on the F4-U Corsair) but I can easily go with them being M1919 Calibre 30's

As for the pods on top, I left that bit out mostly as I saw them more as "mission configurable" loadouts, either a handwavium multi-TOW holder, 3in or 5in rocket pods, even if you want to go weird, recoilless rifles.

But yeah, just a quick doodle for a thing that fell flatter than Illinois.

[dragoon500ly]

For what it's worth, those .30 calibre guns might actually be the Browning M1919 which is normally found in .30-06 (I say normally because some countries converted them to 7.62x51mm)
The M1919 would be a more compact design for turret use than using one of the 7.62x51mm machine guns.

Try going with the US M-240C, Basic MAG-59 receiver, shortened barrel, no buttstock and half of the pistol grip cut off, its actually smaller than a M1919.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Hey all, I found this while browsing pages for the Ark II vehicle, thought some of you might be able to make use of it despite the translation problem.
Found it here: - https://rolltop-indigo.blogspot.com/...ture-ride.html