Morrow Project Uniforms

[natehale1971]

I have come up with ideas for Morrow Project uniforms...

The MP field uniforms. instead of coveralls I would suggest something along the lines of the WW2 British Battle Dress Uniform... They would work as both combat uniform and the semi-formal service uniform.

the field uniform would be a dark khaki waist-length resistweave jacket, a pair of dark khaki resistweave trousers, a pair of brown leather combat boots, light khaki gartiers (to provide protection to the lower legs from snakebites, a light tan shirt, a tan tie, a set of light tan underwear (a resistweave tee-shirt and boxer breif style compression shorts for males; a resistweave tee-shirt, sports bra, thong panties and compression shorts for females), a pair of tan or brown cushsion soled socks.

Informal dress would be a pair of business style khakis; a khaki shirt (long or short-sleeved), a pair of khaki shorts or trousers, a pair of tan socks, a pair of brown leather shoes or ankle boots.

the Morrow Project berets... I had an idea for the beret having color codes that go in acordance with the kind of team or speciality the wearer is part of.

Light Green
Dark Green
Brown
Light Blue
Dark Blue
Tan
White

Orange: Orange berets and uniforms are worn by personnel assiged to permenant bases as we saw in the Prime Base module.

Dark Grey: Special Purpose teams wear a dark grey beret... these are the Pheonx team wash-outs.. They would be used as regional special services where the pheonix team is a national resource that only answers to Bruce E. Morrow.

Light Grey: The Pheonix team personnel wear a light grey resistweave uniform, inculding the fact that their beret is light grey.

[natehale1971]

I will be posting drawings of the uniforms here... but i do want some help with the Beret Color coding...

Beret Colors: Brown (Feild Teams), Tan (Recon & Mars Teams), Dark Blue (MP Maritime), Light Blue (MP Aviation), Orange (Bases/Facilities), Grey (Special Services & RAT teams), Light Grey (Pheonix team), White (Medical & Science teams), Dark Green (Agricultural teams), Light Green (construction & engineering teams),

MP Field Uniforms: a beret, a resistweave khaki belted waist-length field jacket, a light tan shirt, a light tan tie, a pair of resistweave khaki trousers, a light tan set of underwear (a compression tee-shirt, a pair of boxer brief-style compression shorts; for females a compression tee-shirt, a sports bra, a pair of thong panties, and compression shorts), a pair of tan cushion-soled socks, a pair of reinforced brown leather boots, a pair of resistweave snake-bite gartiers, a set of OD or coyote brown combat webbing and tactical vest.

MP Informal Uniform: a beret, a light weight tan M41 field jacket, a tan shirt (long-sleeve or short-sleeve), a brown web belt w/a gold or silver buckle, a pair of tan trousers or shorts, a pair of light tan socks, a pair of brown leather ankleboots or shoes.

MP Semi-Formal Uniform: a beret, a golden brown double-breasted jacket, a tan shirt, a dark tan tie, a pair of golden-brown trousers, a pair of tan socks, a pair of brown leather dress shoes, a brown leather Sam Brown belt w/holster.

Tactical Gear: a ballistic helmet w/a coyote brown cover, a Level III ballitic vest w/a coyote brown cover, a set of coyote brown knee & elbow pads, a pair of nomex coyote brown gloves.

[kato13]

My uniforms are closer in tune with US military as my project is intermeshed with elements of the DoD. I do have signifigant advances in spider silk technology being rolled into the standard ACU. Though I expect I will have to come up with a custom dress uniform. I also did color coded berets but I expect you will have but more thought into it than I did to, so I just plan to lift yours .

[natehale1971]

My uniforms are closer in tune with US military as my project is intermeshed with elements of the DoD. I do have signifigant advances in spider silk technology being rolled into the standard ACU. Though I expect I will have to come up with a custom dress uniform. I also did color coded berets but I expect you will have but more thought into it than I did to, so I just plan to lift yours .

I had went with uniforms that where just as rugged and utility enough to be on par with US military uniforms, i did a design that would give the project a professional appearence, be comfortable, and not scream "MILITARY" at the top of their lungs. the uniforms would give the appearence of authority, but still be 'unusual' enough that MP personnel would be able to perform all kinds of duties.

I just wish i still had the notes for the colors for the berets...

Scarlet Red (Mars teams)
Light Blue (Science teams)
Tan (Recon teams)
Khaki (RAT teams)
Dark Green ()
Light Green (Agricultural teams)
Maroon ()
Pink ()
Light Grey (Pheonix team)
Dark Grey ()
Black (Maintenance & Support)
Brown ()
White (Healthcare & Medical teams)
Dark Blue (Maritime services)
Powder Blue (Aviation services)
Orange (bases and facilities)

[kato13]

I had went with uniforms that where just as rugged and utility enough to be on par with US military uniforms, i did a design that would give the project a professional appearence, be comfortable, and not scream "MILITARY" at the top of their lungs. the uniforms would give the appearence of authority, but still be 'unusual' enough that MP personnel would be able to perform all kinds of duties.

I just wish i still had the notes for the colors for the berets...

Scarlet Red (Mars teams)
Light Blue (Science teams)
Tan (Recon teams)
Khaki (RAT teams)
Dark Green ()
Light Green (Agricultural teams)
Maroon ()
Pink ()
Light Grey (Pheonix team)
Dark Grey ()
Black (Maintenance & Support)
Brown ()
White (Healthcare & Medical teams)
Dark Blue (Maritime services)
Powder Blue (Aviation services)
Orange (bases and facilities)

Yeah I had a similar feeling about the military appearance until the logic of the ACU multi environment camouflage solved a few logistical issues I had. Also given I am using modified HMMWVs and M-16s if figured the "non-military" appearance was a lost cause.

Good work on the berets.

[natehale1971]

Yeah I had a similar feeling about the military appearance until the logic of the ACU multi environment camouflage solved a few logistical issues I had. Also given I am using modified HMMWVs and M-16s if figured the "non-military" appearance was a lost cause.

Good work on the berets.

I can see that... I have some other ideas as well. i just can't make my brain work at the moment...

ive been trying to find someone who can help me with something, just not found them yet.

[stoner63]

MP Uniforms

You must forgive me as I have not used or seen my MP books and material in quite some time but I am a long time fan of the game and the scenario.
I say that as my memory might be a bit foggy on some points.
When it comes to the uniforms and equipment I have always had a lot of questions.
I could see wearing a jump suit of some type in a bolt hole or an installation but not in the field.
Since most of the teams were frozen in the 80s I would think the clothes and gear would be either the current military issue of the day or recent surplus.
As the teams are not to necessarily be "military" a solid color uniform may less threatening.
Who knows what the locals might think about that.
I see them wearing a set of O.D. or Khaki slant pocket B.D.U.s and not berets but boonie hats or baseball style caps in the same colors.
These clors would suit any of the terrain in the U.S.
I don't see them needing a walking out dress uniform at all.
Just some thoughts...

[kato13]

You must forgive me as I have not used or seen my MP books and material in quite some time but I am a long time fan of the game and the scenario.
I say that as my memory might be a bit foggy on some points.
When it comes to the uniforms and equipment I have always had a lot of questions.
I could see wearing a jump suit of some type in a bolt hole or an installation but not in the field.
Since most of the teams were frozen in the 80s I would think the clothes and gear would be either the current military issue of the day or recent surplus.
As the teams are not to necessarily be "military" a solid color uniform may less threatening.
Who knows what the locals might think about that.
I see them wearing a set of O.D. or Khaki slant pocket B.D.U.s and not berets but boonie hats or baseball style caps in the same colors.
These clors would suit any of the terrain in the U.S.
I don't see them needing a walking out dress uniform at all.
Just some thoughts...

Hey welcome aboard. Always glad to see new users.

I try to give my teams a variety to choose from as far a s head gear, as different areas of the country will to different needs. My game has more military involvement, a continued cold war and a later start date so I am barely canon in that respect. I also really ramp up the equipment as I want a team to be able to survive 5 years alone, if they wake early in the sleep phase.

I like the ACU because of utility reasons. But I could easily see swapping them out for an OD color. As I said before though I expect my teams to be reintegrated into any surviving military command structure, so appearing to be regular military is OK.

While there is no field need for a beret or dress uniform, from a unit/project pride perspective I can see it being important. I probably would not assign them to field units but would keep a dress uniform for every member at their regional base. Once supply from that base is established to the unit they can put in a request for it (like if they have a wedding to attend or such). I think little things like that keep up spirits.

[stoner63]

Listen, I know this is just an RPG but I like realism to an extant to be in the game and the mythology of the game.
I understand that you lean more toward the military end but the most basic tenant of MP personnel is to survive.
I take that to mean that no single MP operator can be lost if at all possible.
We all love a fight but we hate the casualties...MP people are irreplaceable assets to the future of the country.
Uniforms, walking out dress and unit pride are all good things...for the military.
I'm not saying camo fatigues don't have there place in the scope of operations especially reece ops.
I am saying that if you have to have and everyday, non-mission specific set of reasonable presentable, durable clothes that was toned down into a plain-ness you might got shot at less and lower your casualties...maybe.
Again, just my thinking on that...

[natehale1971]

I think you're getting stuck on the word 'uniform' and not getting why the project would have created the different types of attire that was made for the project personnel in this modest proposal I had made. But I had come up with the various types of uniforms for one very important reason.

Group Identity.

You need to remember something about the Project... It was created by Bruce E. Morrow who KNEW that things would go hay-wire and the project would sleep 150 years after TEOTWAWKI instead of the 5 years they had planned for. But he had to work with a group of Industrialists whom would have brought into the mix their own ideas on GROUP IDENTITY.

You keep focusing on the term 'walking out unifrom' that i used to describe the semi-formal dress. Yes the Morrow Project walking-out uniform is basically a dress uniform. But I used the term 'walking-out uniform' since it was used by most european nations to describe the nicest uniform that personnel are issued that they can wear when they are going 'out' and it isn't too ornate and wouldn't draw to much attention to them as their Parade or Ceremonal uniforms would.

The Project has the semi-formal uniform for its personnel to wear during high profile meetings and gatherings, and believe it or not, would have been something that a Corproate Public Relations rep would have pushed REALLY REALLY HARD for.

Remember that the Council for Tomorrow was a bunch of corprate leaders. And their PR types would have put a very simple motto into their heads that is also very true... "It's not just important to be seen doing good things, you have to look good while doing them!"

Thus I had the project created the Semi-Formal Uniform that I refered to as their Walking-Out Dress... It's basicly just a really nice business suit and tie that they would wear with their nicest beret. I inculded the Sam Brown belt & holster in the description can be left off if personnel feel that being seen as armed would just be 'overkill'.. But I put the gunbelt as part of the uniform description since the Project really wants it's people to be able to protect and defend themselves at all times.

The fact that the Project is a humanitarian organization, dedicated to the reconstruction of civilization (and the reestablishment of the United States) they would really have to keep PUBLIC RELATIONS in mind while they would have been doing their work. I had found out that even standard security guards that are working at major corporations have dress uniforms to wear to look good when cameras are around during public events.

I described the various MP uniforms has being non-militaristic as possible, since the project would really be trying to present themselves as a non-aggressive and non-military organization. Instead of the US Army BDU style uniforms so I went with the style of battle-dress uniforms that were worn during the Second World War that looks alot like something Police Officers would wear (the rugged uniform with a nice shirt and tie).

I have been looking into something to help keep project personnel save... And not look as if they are wearing anything offensive. I have been looking at the 'Underarmor' underwear... long sleeve and long pants that would be made of a low-grade resistweave. It wouldn't be as strong as the field uniform, but it would still give some protection when worn under their 'street clothes' but isn't something that would give extra protection while worn under their resistweave field uniform.

[stoner63]

I was hoping that Bruce Morrow, being a suspected ESPer would have put some simpler ideas in their heads for them but you're right, the PR types would push their ways and Bruce couldn't be in every mind at once on every issue.
I suppose their motto as you stated has some credence and I forgot about meetings of the Council of Tomorrow where you might want to make a good impression, especially if you were presenting a mission.
I was never in the military so I guess I might miss some of the significance of a uniform. I have, however, been afield in all types of weather (now including the high desert of the SW US) and I tend to always favor what works in the field and what is comfortable.
In MP terms I would be the type who was hard to bring in from that deep RECCE op.
Thanks for those points and I hope to see some more of your artwork when possible.
Now, what's your opinion on MP web gear

[kato13]

I am saying that if you have to have and everyday, non-mission specific set of reasonable presentable, durable clothes that was toned down into a plain-ness you might got shot at less and lower your casualties...maybe.
Again, just my thinking on that...

My opinion is that if you project strength you are less likely to get shot or captured. I don't have smaller than 10 man units. I have more small arms firepower at all levels. The world the units are supposed to wake up in is going to be a very violent place, and those who have survived are not idiots. If violence is on their minds they will project it at the weakest they will find.

Once the teams link up and start to stabilize areas then the militarism can be reduced, but out of the bolthole I want my teams to appear about as appetizing to marauders as a porcupine.

[kato13]

You need to remember something about the Project... It was created by Bruce E. Morrow who KNEW that things would go hay-wire and the project would sleep 150 years after TEOTWAWKI instead of the 5 years they had planned for.

Is it clear Bruce knew this I don't remember that specifically being stated.

[natehale1971]

Is it clear Bruce knew this I don't remember that specifically being stated.

Check the 'Wandering Warlock' in the encounters, it is said to be Bruce E. Morrow himself during his forays into the future... Though I have always felt that Bruce E. Morrow had been born in the future, and went back in Time to try and 'fix' the future....

[kato13]

Check the 'Wandering Warlock' in the encounters, it is said to be Bruce E. Morrow himself during his forays into the future... Though I have always felt that Bruce E. Morrow had been born in the future, and went back in Time to try and 'fix' the future....

Yeah I remember that now. Sometimes my brain blocks out part of canon I don't like