OT - Killings at Fort Hood

[Webstral]

A smart one will use that guy as his troubleshooter and go-to guy.

Oh, if only there were more smart commanders out there who used their smarts for the greater good!

One reason I started Thunder Empire was to bring into existence a few good leaders so I could show what I believe happens when the senior leadership creates a climate of communication, honesty, and tolerance for mistakes.

Webstral

[MajorPo]

He was a psychiatrist. They are indeed a bunch of bow tie wearing freaks. Speaking as a psychologist I can assure you we are all sane, upstanding members of the community

[headquarters]

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He was a psychiatrist. They are indeed a bunch of bow tie wearing freaks. Speaking as a psychologist I can assure you we are all sane, upstanding members of the community

The student housing comitee in Bergen where I used to live -allocated no flat over the 2 floor to any psych student...

[Targan]

He was a psychiatrist. They are indeed a bunch of bow tie wearing freaks. Speaking as a psychologist I can assure you we are all sane, upstanding members of the community

I was drinking Sprite as read that post and it came out of my nose.

[Abbott Shaull]

Ah, yes; no officer (or NCO) wants to be the "Atlas Man." (Do OERs and NCOERs still use that little diagram) But I've seen that happen too many times -- promote someone because he's a good schmoozer but otherwise a royal pain in the ass. If you promote him, you can get him reassigned outside your unit! It's really a lazy and stupid way to solve a problem with a soldier, and it gets used way too often, particularly with problem senior NCOs and mid-to-high-level officers.

Ironically, it's also used to get rid of another type of "problem" soldier" -- the one that sees problems and immediately starts working to fix them -- successfully. It's the sort of thing that makes his superiors pissed because he's exposing unit problems that his superiors were glossing over, ignoring, or actively trying to hide -- and it also makes them look bad because they couldn't fix the problems. A stupid and lazy senior NCO or officer will get rid of that guy because he "makes us look bad." A smart one will use that guy as his troubleshooter and go-to guy.

Well all too often it was the zero who got promoted and sent to other units. Yet, it seem the warnings were out there.

[copeab]

There's an old story about how the Germans broke down officers by smart/stupid and energetic/lazy,

Those who were smart/lazy were considered the best leaders, because they were unlikely to micromanage their underlings, staying out of their way unless there was trouble, only then getting involved.

The smart/energetic made the best underlings, knowing how to do their jobs and willing to get it done.

The stupid/lazy were no use at all, but they tended to not stand in the way of smarter officers passing them over.

However, the stupid/energetic person is the bane to any organization. They don't know what they are doing but, by God, they want to do it anyway. They must be gotten rid of at all costs.

[Legbreaker]

However, the stupid/energetic person is the bane to any organization. They don't know what they are doing but, by God, they want to do it anyway. They must be gotten rid of at all costs.

This would explain the Russian front

From the little I've seen of the news in the past few days, there's still a huge emphasis on the fact he was a muslim and had links with terrorist groups. To me that stinks of passing the buck and ducking for cover.

[pmulcahy11b]

From the little I've seen of the news in the past few days, there's still a huge emphasis on the fact he was a muslim and had links with terrorist groups. To me that stinks of passing the buck and ducking for cover.

Yeah, after seeing the past few days, I've had to revise my opinion about him. I thought he was deeply troubled and mentally-ill. But now -- he seems to have been pissed off at the US Government and the US military well before he came into the Army. Strange how he didn't mind the Army paying for his education, huh He's scum of the worst sort.

[copeab]

He's scum of the worst sort.

I must respectfully disagree. He's down there, but he's not as low as a pedophile, for starters.

[pmulcahy11b]

I must respectfully disagree. He's down there, but he's not as low as a pedophile, for starters.

OK, you're right. I do think that child sexual abuse should be a death penalty crime. But you know what I mean.

A bad part of this incident is that it will probably increase distrust and suspicion of Moslem troops in the US military, increasing prejudice and possibly lead to reprisals, such as beating up Moslem troops. He may think in his twisted mind-set that he is helping Moslems, but instead he's done something evil to them.

[Caradhras]

Personally I wouldnt judge anyone when my only source of evidence is from the media, many of whom are scum of some sort (imo).

The media are running with the muslim/extremist angle but there is no evidence other than some emails to a cleric, yet these emails are harmless.

My take on it, purely from instinct, is another case of man going over the edge from stresses.

[copeab]

A bad part of this incident is that it will probably increase distrust and suspicion of Moslem troops in the US military, increasing prejudice and possibly lead to reprisals, such as beating up Moslem troops.

I'll agree with this. Some mediot (I don't remember the name*, but it's not one I'm familiar with) has already said that Muslims should not be allowed to serve in the military until some sort of foolproof "loyalty test" is devised for them to pass.

* Don something

[Caradhras]

A recent BBC article, prompted by the Hood incident no doubt.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8354977.stm

[Mohoender]

A recent BBC article, prompted by the Hood incident no doubt.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8354977.stm

Nice and interesting article

[Webstral]

I'll agree with this. Some mediot (I don't remember the name*, but it's not one I'm familiar with) has already said that Muslims should not be allowed to serve in the military until some sort of foolproof "loyalty test" is devised for them to pass.

* Don something

Yikes. Let's hope the Army leadership rises to a higher level of professionalism and Constitutionality.