Another Jackass

[natehale1971]

From what I heard, this second "incident" (barely deserves the title) simply involved one sick man who locked himself in the toilet for about an hour. The crew and passengers over reacted...

All things considered, it's better to overact than to let something horrible happen like a plane brought down.

[natehale1971]

Unfortunately I agree with you It would take politicians putting the interests of their country before their own, and if you think that's likely, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. The terrorist problem is global and it needs a global responce. That does require that people talk and listen to each other. <sigh>

IIRC the reason that many security precautions weren't put in place by domestic airlines pre 9/11 was cost. That's still a very big factor today.

Very true. But treating it like a police problem won't work. because the police are limited by what they can do, they are 'reactive' and 'responsive'... every time the police use 'sting operations' you have lawyers screaming things like 'entrapment' (like a group of lawyers are doing over a case where the FBI did a sting on a group of domestic islamic terrorists a few years ago).

And with the wall being thrown back up between the FBI and CIA, we can see that terrorism isn't being taken seriously. Because the only real way to deal with terrorism is to use ALL resources available against those whom are committing what can only be considered 'crimes against humanity' (because in all honesty, all war can bee seen as a crime). And they see themselves as 'warriors' and that they are 'at war' with infidels, thus we really should use everything we have to fight back. Be it using domestic law enforcement inside our national borders (and i mean ALL nations policing their countries), and using military personnel and intelligence agents to carry out infomration and offense operations anywhere in the world they find them.

While many decry our defenders engaging in actions like Jack Bauer on '24'... it's one of the highest rated shows. mainly because it's escapism where the 'Good Guys' always win, and do what ever it takes to protect and defend thsoe who can not (or will not) protect and defend themselves.

we all have to stay vigilant, and on watch against this kind of attack. Just like we really should stay vigilant looking for criminals breaking the law. Because that's what a real citizen does... They see it as a responsiblity of being a citizen of a given country, state or community. (this leads to another of my pet peives... the 'don't snich' movement... but that's for another time and place).

[Nowhere Man 1966]

Frankly, I think end the end passengers will have to be drugged unconscious before before the plane takes off and revived after they land.

Hello, Traveller low berths ...

Someone else came up with the idea where all passengers have to fly naked. Can you imagine that one

[Nowhere Man 1966]

The worst thing about the whole thing (other than attempted terrorism) is that he used one of the kind of syringes that diabetics use as part of his kit. Another innocent group that will be singled out in searches...guess they'll have to carry their medical records with them now...

And another hurdle will be added. I resolve to never fly because of it, I'll just drive. My father had an artificial knee implant in 2002 and he has to carry a card with him when he goes through airport scanners since he would set it off.


Chuck

[Nowhere Man 1966]

Nate, I agree with you, we need more Jack Bauers and Chuck Norris' and political correctness is going to kill us. I'll leave it at that.

Chuck

[Targan]

Hmm.