Poll - Favorite Battle Rifle

[StainlessSteelCynic]

once again another attack by a guy who cant read. Good job buddy. way to make your point.

I was simply stating the title of the poll because I believed it was important to note that while the thread itself said "What is your favourite battle rifle", the poll itself was titled as "favourite battle rifle for your PC".
The only person here making attacks is you

[headquarters]

How about..

all of us posting here step back and take a second to reflect on why we do so


I for my part enjoy reading and posting here .

I have a worry that quarrels and negativity could ruin our whole set up .

[Targan]

We have a number of strong personalities on this forum. This can be both a blessing and a curse. Not pointing any fingers but lets try to keep the tone here respectful eh fellas We each have something unique to bring to this forum. I don't hold any members here in contempt. Be cool my brothers, be cool.

[HorseSoldier]

For a general purpose battle rifle, the FAL is head and shoulders above any of the other "main battle rifles" out there -- ergonomic brilliance being the place where it just beats the everloving snot out of the M14 and G3 all day long. It's combat accurate, though definitely not a good starting point for building a DMR.

Add to that, for a T2K world, the ability for the user to adjust the gas system easily to allow for hotter or weaker, cleaner or filthier ammo from various sources and you've got the absolute winner.

[waiting4something]

For a general purpose battle rifle, the FAL is head and shoulders above any of the other "main battle rifles" out there -- ergonomic brilliance being the place where it just beats the everloving snot out of the M14 and G3 all day long. It's combat accurate, though definitely not a good starting point for building a DMR.

Add to that, for a T2K world, the ability for the user to adjust the gas system easily to allow for hotter or weaker, cleaner or filthier ammo from various sources and you've got the absolute winner.

Nice STG-58. I agree with you it has better ergonomics then the G3 and M14. And I agree that the accuracy of Fals isn't on pair with either rifle either. The hole on the rear sight is just to big I think. Non the less a cool rifle.

[Targan]

Nice STG-58. I agree with you it has better ergonomics then the G3 and M14. And I agree that the accuracy of Fals isn't on pair with either rifle either. The hole on the rear sight is just to big I think. Non the less a cool rifle.

Once I'd zeroed my rifle I never missed a shot with the SLR (FAL) on the 600m pop-up range. Its accuracy is just fine IMO.

[headquarters]

G3

Once I'd zeroed my rifle I never missed a shot with the SLR (FAL) on the 600m pop-up range. Its accuracy is just fine IMO.

I cant let you SLR toting Anglophones have the last word !



The G3 has decent ergonomics and acceptable accuracy (IMHumbleO ) . Moreover it is robust and easy to use .I wont say much for its trigger ,but some tweaking is possible to make it smoother .

I cant agree totally that the SLR is better . So I think we have to agree to disagree about snot extraction etc

[waiting4something]

Once I'd zeroed my rifle I never missed a shot with the SLR (FAL) on the 600m pop-up range. Its accuracy is just fine IMO.

Well that is some amazing shooting. I couldn't do that even with a M1A or AR-10 and they have better sights.

[waiting4something]

I cant let you SLR toting Anglophones have the last word !



The G3 has decent ergonomics and acceptable accuracy (IMHumbleO ) . Moreover it is robust and easy to use .I wont say much for its trigger ,but some tweaking is possible to make it smoother .

I cant agree totally that the SLR is better . So I think we have to agree to disagree about snot extraction etc

The few things I don't dig about the G3 type weapons is like you said the trigger sucks. The other thing that blows is it doesn't have a last round bolt hold open like the FAL'S, AR-10'S and M1A's. Where the cocking handle is located is also a arms reach away unless its chopped down to a MP-5 sized weapon, like the HK 51's and 53's. It's a sexy gun I'll give it that though as long as it has the wide forends, not the slim tropical ones.

[B.T.]

I'd go for the G3

Hi folks.

I think, Headquarter is right, when he points out, most people take, what they are familiar with. That's why I choose the G3. Two drawbacks (IMHO): It's not very balanced, when you have to carry it with one hand. The FAL is better, because of the carrying-handle. And the G3 lacks a bipod.
But as far as I'm informed, not all of the FALs have a bipod either, right

We did not shoot at 600 m as normal infantry, but I had no trouble with the 400 m range, what was the longest range for us conscripts to shoot at.

If I had the chance to take the G3/SG1, I'd do that. It has a bipod, but it was never the standard-issue-rifle.

Well, and for gaming purposes: It's no difference (In V2 and V2.2), if you choose FAL or G3 - the stats are the same.

[HorseSoldier]

You're correct, some nations fitted the integral bipod (as on the StG-58 I posted a picture of earlier in the thread) and others did not. Without checking to make sure, I'm suspecting that most nations using the FAL did not fit the integral bipod, as least on versions intended for rifle use (unlike some of the Israeli and Canadian versions which were light support weapons). From personal experience on the StG-58, the bipod isn't super useful for semi automatic shooting in the prone, but it does make putting effective bursts on target very easy. During familiarization/general screwing around on the range we'd regularly make multiple hits on steel chest plates out to about 200 meters with 3-5 round bursts. Definitely not a substitute for a machine gun, but much better than trying to do the same thing with a full auto 7.62x51 rifle standing off hand.

[Rockwolf66]

I personally picked the M-14 series of Rifles. I have friends who own H&K G3A3, FN FAL and M14E2 rifles. Those friends shoot said rifles at least once a month and a couple of them compete with said rifles in full Auto competitions. Now said rifles can hit targets in FA out to 100 yards when fired in short bursts. The basic cartridge, magazine capacity, and size being the same or roughtly the same. What gives the M14 my vote is the effectivness of the sights. The FN-FAL is very nice with optics but the iron sights are not my cup of tea. The G3 on the other hand has standard sights limited to 400m.

Plus there is personal preferance going on here.

[jester]

Rock, I have to agree. The 14 platform has more things you can to do accurize it. And inherently it has better potential out of the box as well. The advantage is the Garand style sights that allow you to adjust for windage and elevation technicaly while the weapon is still shouldered. Then, toss in some NM sights, trigger group and barrel and well the platform just get better. I own a L1A1 and a M1A1 and well, the L1 is good, a very good battle rifle. But, it just can't do the same precision at a distance my M1A1 can do. At close range the L1 is accurate but the fine adjustments for longer range is nothing compared to the M1A1.

[bobcat]

in order.
G3 (ootb can serve any decent sniper)
M14 (the 8 round ding with a box mag)
FAL (democracies right arm)
M1 garand (the 8 round ding.)

[dragoon500ly]

Have shot the M-14 while in the service...an absolute sweetheart of a weapon, very easy to use, ergonomic and surisingly far more accurate than a M-16 on single shot. When kicked over to full auto, he had better have been hitting the barbells at the gem, the recoil would throw you all over the range.

Since getting out, I have purchased an M-1 Garand...and next to my wife and kids, this is the love of my life (at least until the military starts selling off M-14s to civilians). A sweet, sweet rifle.