Weapon choice for women.

[Legbreaker]

Worth noting that an old US Army study suggested that soldiers not carry more than 30% of their body weight into combat and 45% in other situation.

Ha!
Good luck with that actually happening.....

[pmulcahy11b]

Worth noting that an old US Army study suggested that soldiers not carry more than 30% of their body weight into combat and 45% in other situation.

Leg, he just misquoted -- he meant 130% and 145%.

[simonmark6]

English Teacher butting in...

Just read Mo's post and I'd like to make an interpretation in case anyone thinks he's accusing Kato of being sexist. His "You must be sexist" is a command, not an accusation.

Sorry, I'll just slope off into a corner and play with my gerunds....

[Legbreaker]

Leg, he just misquoted -- he meant 130% and 145%.

Ah, forgot to carry the one......

[copeab]

Just read Mo's post and I'd like to make an interpretation in case anyone thinks he's accusing Kato of being sexist. His "You must be sexist" is a command, not an accusation.

This is why I prefer Hollywood realism to real-life realism

[kato13]

Just read Mo's post and I'd like to make an interpretation in case anyone thinks he's accusing Kato of being sexist. His "You must be sexist" is a command, not an accusation.

Sorry, I'll just slope off into a corner and play with my gerunds....

LOL I got it but thanks for the clarification. My girlfriend is an English teacher, and English is her second language just like Mo. Her precision with the rules of the language (far beyond what most Americans have) mixed with sometimes not understanding idioms and multiple meanings, leads me to see those potential misunderstanding pretty well.

Other than being tangential to the original topic (which he acknowledged), I don't have any problems with anything Mo posted.

[copeab]

I'll also add that the average WWII Japanese soldier was around 5'4" and 120 lbs, but you didn't see them snapping like twigs during a march.

[kato13]

I'll also add that the average WWII Japanese soldier was around 5'4" and 120 lbs, but you didn't see them snapping like twigs during a march.

At the same body mass women generally have ~50% of the upper body strength and ~70% of the lower body strength of men. Training and intensity can sometimes fill some of that gap, but I am talking about the rule not the exceptions.

[copeab]

At the same body mass women generally have ~50% of the upper body strength and ~70% of the lower body strength of men. Training and intensity can sometimes fill some of that gap, but I am talking about the rule not the exceptions.

Do you have a reference for that

[kato13]

Do you have a reference for that

http://www.stumptuous.com/ebben.html

which references

National Strength and Conditioning Association: Position Paper: Strength Training for Female Athletes. National Strength and Conditioning Association, Colorado Springs, 1990

I have seen it in a few other locations as well but that one was in my history.

[copeab]

Fine. Gimp female characters. Give them a -2 to Str or something.

I know someone who stopped coming here because he didn't like the attitudes of a lot of the posters. I know how he feels.

See some of you on other forums, I guess.

[kato13]

I'm very very sorry if people are finding this offensive. I have a ton of respect for women in all endeavors. I actually think women are better for most jobs than men. I don't mean to minimize the accomplishments of any women anywhere.

My sister is pretty much a professional athlete (gymnastic instructor). She has great strength for her mass and still has a six pack at age 48 (and 4 kids), but she will still have me lift something for her.

When I have gamed I have sometimes given a -1 str penalty but given a +1 Agility rating for women.

I am also looking at this from a realistic large scale logistics perspective not a gaming perspective. This is forcing me to look at large scale averages. I in no means expect what I am discussing to impede in anyone's method of gaming.

[Legbreaker]

The +1 to AGL works for me (even if it might not actually reflect reality). I'd be happy with a +1 to CHA too (they've usually got more they can flaunt ).

[kato13]

The +1 to AGL works for me (even if it might not actually reflect reality). I'd be happy with a +1 to CHA too (they've usually got more they can flaunt ).

I probably should be a CON bonus now that I think about it as women are build for endurance more than strength.

Women are superior in super endurance events, and will probably surpass men timewise in +100 mile marathons as more women get into the sport.

[pmulcahy11b]

I probably should be a CON bonus now that I think about it as women are build for endurance more than strength.

Women are superior in super endurance events, and will probably surpass men timewise in +100 mile marathons as more women get into the sport.

Women also have an advantage in fine dexterity (like Leg said, the +1 AGL), which along with the increased constitution, is what makes them good pilots for modern combat aircraft that have power-boosted controls and HOTAS-type sticks.