Favorite Shotgun

[pmulcahy11b]

(as for saiga 12 importation to the US I had one imported in 2000 but I don't think this shotgun would exsist in t2K)

The Saiga would exist in T2K, but would probably not be found outside of Soviet, Polish, and Czech military hands (barring capture, of course).

[pmulcahy11b]

I envy you guys living in places with less restrictive gun laws. Here in Oz even pump action shotguns are a no-no. Ridiculous.

In Texas, gun laws are very lenient compared to the rest of the country, but the mentally ill (like me, dammit) still can't get one!

The thing about "assault weapon" laws is that they are usually drafted by the anti-gun lobby. I'm pretty left-wing politically and I think the anti-gun lobby is rabid. (I also think the NRA is rabid as well, to be fair.) Given the right circumstances, I could kill someone bare-handed or with my feet, should they be declared "assault weapons" Everything could be an "assault weapon" -- you just have to know how to use it.

[Legbreaker]

I really don't see the need for a bayonet lug in the civilian world.

Because using a bayonet is more satisfying

[pmulcahy11b]

Because using a bayonet is more satisfying

I like how in training we were told that if your bayonet get stuck in the victim, shoot them to dislodge the bayonet. One should do that as a matter of course...

[waiting4something]

My favorite shotgun of all time is the USAS-12. I have not shot mine yet, but it is one heavy and solid piece of gear. I had a Saiga 12 didn't like it at all, it felt cheap and was not reliable like the ak rifle as everyone thinks it is(atleast in my findings). The USAS-12's only fault as of right now is its weight and bulk, but with that it won't kick that much I bet. It looks kinda like a M16 on steriods. It can take 10 round mags or 20 round drums and some sources say it had at one time 12 round mags and 28 round drums. The military versions are selective fire with a 360 rpm rate of fire(mines not).
I do realise that a shotgun like this is really only good for limited roles and you wouldn't wanna be humping all over the place with it. I think the best shotgun to have for practical reasons or if the world went to hell is your basic pump shotgun though. They can eat all that low base crap, work dirty, and don't need lube. For pumps I like my 590, but a 870, 1300, or 37 are good pumps too.

[Legbreaker]

The military versions are selective fire with a 360 rpm rate of fire(mines not).

Yet.....

[waiting4something]

Yet.....

Oh how I wish.

[Raellus]

I had to channel Civero but I finally broke the wife down. After four years of pleading, I'm getting my Mossy tomorrow!

[Owen E Oulton]

I had to vote Other... The Atchisson AA12 Assault Shotgun seems to be the ultimate shotgun to me. I mean take an oversized M-16which fires 12 ga. full auto from a 20 round drum! Nasty, nasty, nasty. I've been a fan ever since I saw it in 1st ed. TMP. I just worked out T2K stats for it last night...

[Legbreaker]

You had me up until M16....

I have to admit though it is a very cool weapon (inspite of it's M16 resemblance). Any shotgun capable of firing a bucketload of rounds very quickly without having to reload half way through can't be bad.

[pmulcahy11b]

You had me up until M16....

I have to admit though it is a very cool weapon (inspite of it's M16 resemblance). Any shotgun capable of firing a bucketload of rounds very quickly without having to reload half way through can't be bad.

It's not really an oversized M-16. The designers just used the exterior design, and most importantly, the controls to take advantage of the muscle memory that US troops already have.

[pmulcahy11b]

How about a 6-barrel rotary CAWS

[simonmark6]

Only if it's belt fed...

[HorseSoldier]

12 Gauge buckshot already weighs a ton and takes up a bunch of space as is, without tacking links onto it . . .

[jester]

Just make it hopper fed, that simplifies things.