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  • #16
    Originally posted by Legbreaker View Post
    I think it's worth hearing why people did what they did if it's radically different from the established histories. A simple list of units and their strengths only goes so far...
    Dog6 covered this in the "LAV-75; Stingray; M8 AGS" thread. His world seems radically different from canon in many respects.

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    • #17
      Kato, that's a bunch of work.

      Webstral
      “We’re not innovating. We’re selectively imitating.” June Bernstein, Acting President of the University of Arizona in Tucson, November 15, 1998.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Webstral View Post
        Kato, that's a bunch of work.

        Webstral
        I have had that doc since before I found this forum. I literally spent months playing around with it before deciding that the "barely 1000" men could never support the 8th Mech's declared equipment. It therefore languished in my docs folder until now. Hope someone can build upon it.

        Edit: I should note that I threw in a few exotic vehicles (M1AEV, M5AVR, M1 Bridge, etc) just to give myself some options as a GM. They probably should be replaced with a M88, a M113 and a M60 AVLB. The Anti Air assets are also probably too high, but the EESB does mention several stingers per infantry company, so I included them.
        Last edited by kato13; 02-28-2010, 09:22 PM.

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        • #19
          This is the OOB for a re-built 91st ID in California, getting ready for a push around to the east of the ruins of the LA basin.


          91st Infantry Division
          HHC (HQ & HQ Company) & Communications (100 troops)

          3 infantry Brigades (1st, 2nd, and 3rd, all the same organization, each Bde;3 Rifle battalions of 225 troops (organized into 4 companies
          1 Mortar company of 125 troops (3 batteries of 12 81mm mortars)
          1 Anti-Tank/Heavy Machine Gun Company of 100 troops (vehicle mounted and armed with .50cal M2HB and M40 106mm RCL)

          1 Support Brigade (4th)

          4 Supply Battalions of 125 troops each (ammo, fuel, food)

          1 Transportation Battalion of 150 troops (60 vehicles including 2 ton trucks, HMMWV, M274 Mules, and M151 Jeeps, also any civilian vehicles that can be salvaged; vehicle count is growing daily)

          3 Artillery Battalions of 100 troops each
          1st Bn; 4 M101 105mm howitzers, 8 4.2in mortars, 10 2 ton trucks
          2nd Bn; 5 M101 105mm howitzers, 6 4.2in mortars, 10 2 ton trucks
          3rd Bn; 4 M101 105mm howitzers, 7 4.2in mortars, 10 2 ton trucks

          1 Engineer Battalion of 250 troops (also 20 5 ton dump trucks, 2 loaders, 2 bulldozers)

          1 Cavalry Squadron of 100 troops (22 M114 recon vehicles and numerous Jeeps) (Also the only armored vehicles in the Division)

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          • #20
            The Green Jackets Platoon TO&E

            See attachment.


            Webstral
            Attached Files
            “We’re not innovating. We’re selectively imitating.” June Bernstein, Acting President of the University of Arizona in Tucson, November 15, 1998.

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            • #21
              NOW we have some good stuff rolling in...WOOT!
              "Oh yes, I WOOT!"
              TheDarkProphet

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              • #22
                These are more Sourcebooks than Orbats...

                ...but may be help for someone here...



                Any comments or critic are welcome

                PS:

                This is absolutly not CANON as I think it's a lot easier to make shit up than to use dusins of hours researching.(Even though some researching have commenced) Apart from that this is work anyone can modify for his or her pleasure.

                GP
                The Big Book of War - Twilight 2000 Filedump Site
                Guns don't kill people,apes with guns do.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by kota1342000 View Post
                  This is the OOB for a re-built 91st ID in California, getting ready for a push around to the east of the ruins of the LA basin.
                  I like the work you've done. I'm especially appreciative that you've maintained the spirit of Twilight: 2000 in your organization. I note that the 91st ID hasn't come across any hidden stockpiles of tanks and TOW missiles. The battalions are quite small. This is a weak division, but it's exactly the sort of combat formation one would expect in late 2000/early 2001. Nicely done!

                  Webstral
                  “We’re not innovating. We’re selectively imitating.” June Bernstein, Acting President of the University of Arizona in Tucson, November 15, 1998.

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                  • #24
                    This is an orbat for a small civillian unit that I faced in a twilight 2000 game. They were a small light unit something like the selous scouts.

                    Sqaud Leader:
                    M59 SKS, 100 rounds 7.62x39mm
                    2-F1 hand grenades

                    Rifleman/Grenadier:
                    M59/66 SKS, 100 rounds 7.62x39mm
                    4-anti tank rifle grenades

                    Rifleman/Grenadier:
                    M59/66 SKS, 100 rounds 7.62x39mm
                    4-anti tank rifle grenade

                    Rifleman/Grenadier:
                    M59/66 SKS,100 rounds 7.62x39mm
                    4-anti tank rifle grenade

                    Rifleman/Grenadier:
                    M59/66 SKS, 100 rounds 7.62x39mm
                    4-anti tank rifle grenade

                    Sniper:
                    M-48 Mauser Rifle Zrak 4X24mm ONM76 scope
                    100 round 7.92x57mm
                    TT-33, 25 rounds 7.62x25mm, 3-8 round magazines.


                    fighting agaisnt this small 6 man unit was remarkably challenging despite the fact they where only armed with SKS's. While some of the rifleman accurately aimed and fired their rifles at us,we took cover and others fired rifle grenades at us pinning us down. When the men in my unit broke from cover to fire at the grenadiers the unit sniper picked them off and they whole team was supported by accurate rifle fire.

                    The unit I was in was what what left of a Russian motor rifle sqaud. We had 5 guys armed with AK-74's and one PKM machine gunner. We had no RPG's or GP-25 and no sniper, they took out our Machine gunner imediatly and everytime a rifleman in the company picked up the machine gun they shot him. A couple of other Russians soldiers were wounded by shrapnel from the rifle grenades. We did manage to wound the sqaud leader after which they broke contact.

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                    • #25
                      Soviet Infantry Company

                      written by David Bober in 2004 (or earlier).
                      Attached Files
                      I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory. Someday this war's gonna end...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Webstral View Post
                        I like the work you've done. I'm especially appreciative that you've maintained the spirit of Twilight: 2000 in your organization. I note that the 91st ID hasn't come across any hidden stockpiles of tanks and TOW missiles. The battalions are quite small. This is a weak division, but it's exactly the sort of combat formation one would expect in late 2000/early 2001. Nicely done!

                        Webstral
                        Weak by the standards we normally assign to formations, but by 2000/2001 the reformed 91st would be a preetty powerful formation...except for the level of training of the majority of the troops. The adventure is built around forming up and testing the unit against Soviet, Mexican and marauder elements in Southern California.
                        With a little research, I figured it would make more sense for this kind of formation to pull the 106mm rcls back out as the ammunition would be easier to manufacture and the system has many less quirks. Its the mortar equivalent for the anti-tank side and can be used for bunker busting too.
                        Thanks btw

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by General Pain View Post
                          This is absolutly not CANON as I think it's a lot easier to make shit up than to use dusins of hours researching.(Even though some researching have commenced) Apart from that this is work anyone can modify for his or her pleasure.

                          GP
                          I like doing research -- it's therapeutic.
                          I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons...First We Take Manhattan, Jennifer Warnes

                          Entirely too much T2K stuff here: www.pmulcahy.com

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by pmulcahy11b View Post
                            I like doing research -- it's therapeutic.
                            I agree, if it wasn't for my research projects, I'm pretty sure my head would have exploded by now

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                            • #29
                              Something I was working on at work during the slow periods... Just a rough draft - and I also plot the locations on a map...

                              OOB 4CMBG July 2001

                              HQ Unit - 20 Men
                              Sig/Support - 10 Men
                              Medical - 10 Men
                              Engineers - 60 men

                              3RCR - M Coy 100 men
                              N Coy 100 men
                              P Coy 100 Men
                              Hvy Wpns 25 men

                              1R22eR - A Coy 100 Men
                              B Coy 100 Men
                              C Coy 100 Men
                              Hvy wpns 25 men

                              RCD HQ 3 Humvee 11 men

                              A sqdn - Troop A - 3 x Leopard II 25 Men
                              Troop B - 3 x Leopard II 25 Men

                              B Sqdn - Troop A - 4 x Lav-25 16 Men
                              Troop B - 4 x BMP 2 16 Men
                              Troop C - 4 x Bradley 16 men

                              C Sqdn - 50 Horses 50 Men

                              RCHA 1 Battery - 1 x 105 mm, 3 x 120 mm Mortar 25 Men
                              2 Battery - 1 x 105 mm, 3 x 120 mm Mortar 25 Men
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                              Last edited by Cdnwolf; 03-10-2010, 09:07 PM.
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                              Each day I encounter stupid people I keep wondering... is today when I get my first assault charge??

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                              • #30
                                Here is the last unit make up of the Group of characters we ran .

                                Sr Officer Rank wise Major US Army Chaplin Weapon the Good Book and a .45 Pistol
                                Captain US Eng Corp's M-16A-3 rifle 8 x30 Rd Mags , 9MM pistol with 3 mag's , two Thermite Grenades and a satchel Charge .
                                SFC ex ranger Mess Sgt HQ ,HQ Co. Carried a M-16 A3 , 9mm pistol and his Chief Knives .
                                Staff Sgt . Mechanic carried a M-3 Grease Gun , And M-1911 .45 pistol Also had a snub nose .38 revolver
                                Buck Sgt Female Radio Operator Carried M-16 A3 and 9mm
                                Spec 4 Payroll Specialist Carried M-16A3 with 203 and 9mm

                                Vehicles 1 recovery Vehicle with Repair Trailer , 1x Hmmwv , 1 x Duce with Field Mess Cooker , 1x M-113 comand Vehical .

                                This Group was made up of Actural Ex service men and NG members . And The GM had us Play as what we actualy Served as in the Guard or Active Duty .
                                As you can see there was not an Inf Men Amoung us .
                                Last edited by Spec6; 03-10-2010, 10:32 PM.

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