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  • #16
    Originally posted by Legbreaker View Post
    One of the writers for the original Doctor Who series if I'm not mistaken.
    I know I'm about to say something totally blasphemous...but I like the new Doctor Who series better than the old one.
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    • #17
      I have to agree although I like both. It would be interesting to see what they could have done in the earlier series if they'd had the same buget and technology. As it was they created one of the all time great shows with little more than pocket change.
      If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

      Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Legbreaker View Post
        I have to agree although I like both. It would be interesting to see what they could have done in the earlier series if they'd had the same buget and technology. As it was they created one of the all time great shows with little more than pocket change.
        Nowdays, it's much easier to create special effects on a smaller budget using computers and CGI. Now, what I want to see is a real Starship Troopers -- not that drivel they put out years back. CGI can make that happen. Or a series of movies or a miniseries based on The Forever War.
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        • #19
          Now you're just trying to make me drool!

          If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

          Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

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          • #20
            Originally posted by pmulcahy11b View Post
            I know I'm about to say something totally blasphemous...but I like the new Doctor Who series better than the old one.
            Me too.

            Originally posted by pmulcahy11b
            Or a series of movies or a miniseries based on The Forever War.
            Couldn't agree more.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by pmulcahy11b View Post
              I know I'm about to say something totally blasphemous...but I like the new Doctor Who series better than the old one.
              I like them both, and think David Tennant has been great, but for me the golden era of Doctor Who will always be 1974 - 1976...Tom Baker's early years were awesome.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Rainbow Six View Post
                I like them both, and think David Tennant has been great, but for me the golden era of Doctor Who will always be 1974 - 1976...Tom Baker's early years were awesome.
                I used to love Doctor Who when I was 7-10. They used to show it Sunday mornings on PBS back in the mid '80s. Tom Baker will always be the Doctor to me. I had my mom knit me a 20' long scarf.

                I've watched quite a few of them via Netflix and they're pretty dreadful. Terrible special effects, mostly poor acting, convoluted stories, and lots of dead space. When I was a kid, I thought I was watching an adult show. Now I know that they were purposely producing show for kids and now, as an adult, this is almost painfully obvious. Even so, I still get a nostalgic pleasure from watching them. I've made my wife watch them with me. They're good for a laugh, at least. Although a lot of it is pretty cliched, there are some really neat but relatively undeveloped sci-fi ideas sprinkled in there too. There was a lot of potential there.

                I tried watching the new WHO and couldn't get in to it. IMHO, they've wasted the potential in the Doctor Who universe. Too much of it seemed to happen on Earth and it can't seem to decide if it's serious sci-fi or a campy parody of earlier incarnations. Neither of the "new" Doctors can match Baker's ability to go from earnestly serious to irreverently goofy without seeming phony. I just can't watch it.

                I'm putting on my asbestos coveralls right now...
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                • #23
                  Some interesting points there, but remember that each incarnation of The Doctor is essentially a totally different personnality. Take a look at the very first Doctor and compare them to everyone who's come since - there are startling differences between each and every one of them.
                  If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

                  Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Legbreaker View Post
                    Some interesting points there, but remember that each incarnation of The Doctor is essentially a totally different personnality. Take a look at the very first Doctor and compare them to everyone who's come since - there are startling differences between each and every one of them.
                    That's true. I watched a few of the episodes just before and just after Tom Baker and the three of them were very different. I think the reason TB is, for so many people the one and only Doctor is that he was so goofy and I think that really appealed to the kids the show was aimed at.

                    I just noticed that the most recent incarnation of the Doctors tries the funny/serious thing too and, IMO, doesn't really pull it off very well.
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                    https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product...ula-Sourcebook
                    https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product...nia-Sourcebook
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                    • #25
                      I've watched every surviving episode and enjoyed them all (even if some were just silly). It's a real shame that most of the 1st and 2nd Doctors episodes have been destroyed, or only a part or two of each one remains.
                      If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

                      Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Legbreaker View Post
                        It's a real shame that most of the 1st and 2nd Doctors episodes have been destroyed, or only a part or two of each one remains.
                        I didn't know that. How did that happen
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                        • #27
                          Apparently old film could and was recycled. Nobody thought in the early days that keeping the original reels would be all that important, therefore....
                          If only they'd known back in the 60's how much of a cult classic it would become, how important it would be to so many worldwide.
                          If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

                          Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

                          Mors ante pudorem

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                          • #28
                            Lucky for us here in Australia we have the National Film and Television Archive. Hopefully that should help preserve all of our locally produced material. Now if we could just find some worth preserving...
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                            • #29
                              So, did any of our US posters watch Survivors And if so, what did you think of it
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