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  • #16
    I like it. very good work! only one thing I've seen is the Mirage IV is not only supersonic strategic bombers in the world, the US B-1 and FB-111's are both supersonic, other then that I loved it. keep up the good work !
    "There is only one tactical principal which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wounds, death and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."
    --General George S. Patton, Jr.

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    • #17
      I don't think the B-1 was in service before the mid-1980s but for the early-1980s timeline it could easily be replaced with the USN's A-5 Vigilante.
      From memory I think the US has at least one or two aircraft capable of the supersonic strategic bomber role since the 1960s (such as the B-58 Hustler) and the Soviets had the Tu-22 from about the same time
      It's entirely possible the USAF might have some B-58 aircraft in storage that they could reactivate for the 1983 timeline (I think they went out of service in 1970)

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      • #18
        your right



        Introduction 1 October 1986



        so that only leaves the FB-111

        "There is only one tactical principal which is not subject to change. It is to use the means at hand to inflict the maximum amount of wounds, death and destruction on the enemy in the minimum amount of time."
        --General George S. Patton, Jr.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Dog 6 View Post
          I like it. very good work! only one thing I've seen is the Mirage IV is not only supersonic strategic bombers in the world, the US B-1 and FB-111's are both supersonic, other then that I loved it. keep up the good work !
          Right for the FB-111. I agree also for the B-1 but I don't consider it to be in the same class. In fact, I made two mistakes: forgot the FB-111 and I should have said mach 2-class (I don't know if that's how you say it in english).

          Shame and appologies. By the way, when I wrote that the Strategic command was taken its pant's off, I didn't count the FB-111 and nuclear bombs deployed abroad. I let that to our US members (they'll know more than I do).

          Rough Draft.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by StainlessSteelCynic View Post
            I don't think the B-1 was in service before the mid-1980s but for the early-1980s timeline it could easily be replaced with the USN's A-5 Vigilante.
            From memory I think the US has at least one or two aircraft capable of the supersonic strategic bomber role since the 1960s (such as the B-58 Hustler) and the Soviets had the Tu-22 from about the same time
            It's entirely possible the USAF might have some B-58 aircraft in storage that they could reactivate for the 1983 timeline (I think they went out of service in 1970)
            Forgot about these (memory malfunction, I'll be 40 this year, this must explain that). Nice addition. I didn't count the Tu-22 on purpose, as it was the oponent.

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            • #21
              Seems that the A-5 was taken out by 1980 but I could well see a number of them being refurbished.

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              • #22
                If anyone has some information on the nuclear sharing policy that could be interesting too.

                Here is the wiki

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Mohoender View Post
                  In the meantime, the Turkish air force conducts several nuclear tactical strikes in southern Russia, in the Caucasus and as far as Central Asia.)
                  Turkey has nukes
                  sigpic "It is better to be feared than loved" - Nicolo Machiavelli

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                  • #24
                    B-58s and A-5s won't be refurbished in time for this event, unless you believe that the Carter and Reagan Administrations were working together to plan this nuclear war.
                    My Twilight claim to fame: I ran "Allegheny Uprising" at Allegheny College, spring of 1988.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Adm.Lee View Post
                      B-58s and A-5s won't be refurbished in time for this event, unless you believe that the Carter and Reagan Administrations were working together to plan this nuclear war.
                      Ditto that for the B-1A original version.

                      I can't imagine the Carter and Reagan administrations working together on anything, and you'd also have to assume that Carter knew Reagan would be elected president in 1980 -- until halfway through the primaries, that was far from certain.
                      I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons...First We Take Manhattan, Jennifer Warnes

                      Entirely too much T2K stuff here: www.pmulcahy.com

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Targan View Post
                        Turkey has nukes
                        At the time: Canada, Turkey, Italy, Germany (funny isn't it), Greece... Canada went out of it in 1984 (now I know why I like Canadian so much), Greece was out only by 2001.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Adm.Lee View Post
                          B-58s and A-5s won't be refurbished in time for this event, unless you believe that the Carter and Reagan Administrations were working together to plan this nuclear war.
                          I was only thinking of the A-5 (phased out in 1980). And no I don't think that.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Targan View Post
                            Turkey has nukes
                            More like there were nukes in Turkey; the nukes belonged to the US. We had nukes spread far and wide over the globe in the past.
                            I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons...First We Take Manhattan, Jennifer Warnes

                            Entirely too much T2K stuff here: www.pmulcahy.com

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mohoender View Post
                              Forgot about these (memory malfunction, I'll be 40 this year, this must explain that).
                              Pup!!!!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Graebarde View Post
                                Pup!!!!
                                I second that!!!
                                I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons...First We Take Manhattan, Jennifer Warnes

                                Entirely too much T2K stuff here: www.pmulcahy.com

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