Mexicans in T2K

[kalos72]

Thats a good point about both the cartels and how some of the migrants would have skill sets most average Americans wouldn't.

In RedStar, alot of the towns south of Corpus Cristi were all Mexican immigrant. How would a returning US Army trying to secure the area again behave knowing that most of the locals were not American

Maybe, from the thoughts here, they would weed out the skilled people and then force the others back to Mexico

Or perhaps since most of that population is immigrant, they would just say follow the law, assist us with the rebuilding and give NO AID to the Mexican Army or any party looking to oppose the rebuilding and control and you can have citizenship.

Not sure what there would be to rebuild with no population there... :/

[HorseSoldier]

I think that for the most part the drug cartels would find themselves exterminated -- on the one hand, their source of income disappears and on the other hand the Mexican military will be off the leash when it comes to ensuring stability. The Mexican military isn't noted for its effectiveness, and a lot of those gangs are well armed, but at the end of the day none of them are packing AFVs and artillery so far as I can tell. Add in that people are in the business for money, not for ideology, and I don't see them being very durable when push really comes to shove. Some might survive, and I can definitely see drug lords retreating to ranches and estates to become minor local warlords or marauders, but I don't see much real political/military power on their ledger books by 2000.

In RedStar, alot of the towns south of Corpus Cristi were all Mexican immigrant. How would a returning US Army trying to secure the area again behave knowing that most of the locals were not American

Good question. In the T2K/2300AD timeline the basic answer is they didn't, with Texas ending up a Mexican state while MilGov, CivGov, and New America slugged it out for non-SW USA parts of the country.

[Webstral]

I agree that the cartels are going to find the world a rather new place. The narcotics trade with the US will dry up pretty darned quickly after November 1997. Whether any of these groups will morph into something different is another question. Until the Mexican peso completely loses its value, a cartel has some reserves of cash (useful). They have an existing organization of armed men (very useful). They have their agents and allies in law enforcement and the government (also very useful). I don't know how well this translates into a new power structure, though. It's an issue worth exploring.

Certainly, some Americans will side with the Mexican Army once the bread appears to be buttered on that side. No society that places such a strong and proud ideological emphasis on self-interest has any business being surprised when some of its people turn coats. How many I suppose that depends on the location. In Yuma and the Imperial Valley, collaboration probably will be a necessity of life. I look at my little man in his crib and think to myself that I would be hard put to offer him up as a sacrificial lamb to my patriotism.

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[TiggerCCW UK]

In the T2K/2300AD timeline the basic answer is they didn't, with Texas ending up a Mexican state while MilGov, CivGov, and New America slugged it out for non-SW USA parts of the country.

Slightly OT, but is there anywhere online that you can read the history/timeline of 2300 I've no interest in it as a game, but I'd like to read the timeline just to see what the designers reckon happened post T2K.

[Mohoender]

If it helps, I have found this:

http://www.oocities.com/timessquare/arcade/2303/best/timeln.htm

[Targan]

Good question. In the T2K/2300AD timeline the basic answer is they didn't, with Texas ending up a Mexican state while MilGov, CivGov, and New America slugged it out for non-SW USA parts of the country.

Not quite accurate. Texas ended up an independent republic, and was still independent 3 centuries later. By 2001 MilGov and CivGov had pretty much stopped shooting at each other and (from memory) some time during the 20-teens they reunited as one government to defeat the remains of New America and other secessionist groups.