Rifle Grenades

[dragoon500ly]

Speaking as an evil GM...I'm all in favor of homemade, unpredictable explosives

[pmulcahy11b]

Speaking as an evil GM...I'm all in favor of homemade, unpredictable explosives

Yes! A molotov cocktail on a grenade-launching spigot!

[dragoon500ly]

LOL!

Didn't the Brits do that in WWII with the Northover Projector I especially enjoy the picture of one being deployed in an anti-aircraft role.

Hmmmm....Molotov cocktails vs Stukas!!!!!

[copeab]

Yes! A molotov cocktail on a grenade-launching spigot!

Or this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northover_Projector

or: http://soviethammer.devhub.com/blog/...stem-kartukov/

[pmulcahy11b]

Jeez, I thought I had a good joke there, and it turns out some maniac actually tried it!

[dragoon500ly]

What do you expect from the peopl who brought you Monty Python's Flying Circus

[copeab]

The Northover Projector and Ampulenjot 1941 System Kartukov, being crude desperation weapons, would both fit well into T2K.

[dragoon500ly]

True!

I just wouldn't want to be part of the gun crew!

[Legbreaker]

Only because we know just how dodgy they are as weapons.

[Targan]

The Northover Projector and Ampulenjot 1941 System Kartukov, being crude desperation weapons, would both fit well into T2K.

Absolutely. They'd slot right into our threads discussing the use of black powder weapons in T2K. I wonder where in the Twilight world you'd be able to find schematics for either weapon Not that they couldn't be reinvented from scratch but tried-and-true is generally a better option than make-it-up-as-you-go-along.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Well then this will probably interest you, the 6th picture down the page

http://anonymous-generaltopics.blogspot.com/search/label/Molotov%20cocktail

[Legbreaker]

I wonder where in the Twilight world you'd be able to find schematics for either weapon

Without the internet (which we've all grown to rely on VERY heavily) we'd be stuck with whatever's available in the local library (very little of military use) or reinventing the wheel....
Some may be lucky enough to have a book or two from larger libraries, private collections, or looted from stores, but they're likely to be few and far between.

[helbent4]

Andy,

BT grenades would be relatively easy to manufacture, probably as easy as hand grenades. Perhaps less as they just need an impact fuse, not a timed fuse.

For these particular rifle grenades (Bullet Trap or Bullet Through) there is no propellant, rocket motor or special Ballistite cartridges needed, an ordinary bullet will do. Practice is a lot easier than other grenade launchers because all that is expended is a bullet as BT grenades are recoverable.

The Yugoslavs (including the Serbs) use them extensively, and it wouldn't be difficult to copy them. However, doing some reading, I can't see references to the Kalashnikov-series rifles having grenade adapters built in, so that might have to be a latter modification.

Tony

[Legbreaker]

Another (and woefully out of date now) is an M26 grenade clipped onto a sleeve with vanes that slides over an adapter. This is then fired with a Ballistite cartridge (after the pin is pulled of course). On striking the ground the grenade springs loose allowing the arm to fly free - a few seconds later and BOOM.
Potentially this can be reused (with a new grenade of course) if it can be recovered. I don't know anything about manufacture of the ballistite though so couldn't say if this would be a problem in 2000.

Paul have you done anything with this type of weapon (This particular one fits on the L1A1 SLR)

[Adm.Lee]

Did the rest of NATO actually deploy these things I don't remember reading or seeing anything about them in the '80s, so I always figured they were drawing-board kinds of things, like the G11, T-90 and the M1A2.

I don't remember seeing them in any other WWIII game that I had, but they might have just faded into the background. We didn't talk about them in the little ROTC I was in, but tactics were mighty minor in that class.