Site Update Thread!

[pmulcahy11b]

I hope you haven't downloaded them yet...


30 Mar 18

In Heavy-Caliber Small Arms Rounds, the following ammunition has been added: .416 Barrett, 11mm Gras Smokeless, .499 Leitner-Wise, .450 Bushmaster, , .460 Alliance, .460 Steyr, .475 Tremor, .50 Beowulf, .50 DTC-EDM, .502 Thunder Sabre, .510 Phoenix.

In Medium-Caliber Small Arms Rounds, the following ammunition has been added: 7.5mm Mle 1924, .30 Remington AR, .300 Fireball, 7.92mm Patronen, 8mm M/88 Mauser, .338 Spectre, .375 CheyTac

In Small-Caliber Small Arms Rounds, the following rounds have been added: 6.5mm Creedmoor, 6.5mm Greek Service

In Pistol, Revolver & SMG Rounds, the following rounds have been added: 5mm Clement Auto, 5mm Bergmann, .22 TCM, 6.5mm Bergmann, 6.5mm Mannlicher Pistol, 7.5mm FK, .30 Wildey Magnum, .35 Smith & Wesson Auto, .38 AMU, .357 Peterbilt, 9mm Ultra, 10mm Wildey Magnum, .44 Wildey Magnum, and .45 Wildey Magnum.

I have also begun the process to replace the name "10mm Colt" with 10mm Auto;" this is not complete, and for the time being, listings with 10mm Colt and 10mm Auto are referring to the same round.

In Russian Assault Rifles, the Izhmash AK-12 has been added.

In Swiss Assault Rifles, the SIG Sauer SIGM400 has been added.

In US Assault Rifles A-C, the Adcor A-556, Anderson M4 Carbine, Atlantic Arms AA Pol47, Colt LE6920, and CORE15 Piston Rifle have been added.

In US Assault Rifles G-L, the IO "The Sporter", Lancer L15, and LMT SLK8 have been added.

In US Assault Rifles R-Z, the Stag Arms Rifles entry has been split into the Stag 1-8, Stag 9, Stag 10, Stag 15, and Stag 16 entries. Several new Stag Arms Rifles variants have been added to these entries (and the Stag 10, 15, and 16 entries are completely new). In addition, some corrections have been made to these rifles' stats.

In US Battle Rifles A-L, the CMMG Mk3 and the DPMS GII have been added. In addition, the Bushmaster MOE Enhanced ORC entry's stats have been heavily corrected, the text of the entry rewritten, and new variants have been added.

In Italian Pistols - Tanfoglio, in the Witness entry, the Witness Elite 1911P Polymer has been added.

In US Pistols A, the ATI FHX-45 was added.

In US Pistols C, the Colt Gold Cup Trophy has had its stats corrected and additional information added.

In US Pistols D-F, the Dan Wesson Bruin has been added.

In US Pistols K, in the Kimber Eclipse entry, several corrections have been made to the Eclipse Pro Target II.

In US Pistols R, the Rock Island Armory Tactical 1911 has been added.

In US Pistols - Springfield, the Loaded Model Target has been added.

In US Pistols St-Sz, under STI Single-Stack Pistols, the 4.25" and 3.25" barrels have been added to the Lawman. A 9mm Parabellum chamberings have been added to the Legacy and a .45 ACP chambering added to the Rogue.

In US Pistols T-Z, under the Wildey Survivor entry, the .41 Wildey Magnum and 11mm Wildey Magnum chamberings have been removed, as they are actually other names for other Wildey Magnum rounds.

In International Semiauto Sporting Rifles, the Colt/Walther M4 Ops has been added.

In US Semiauto Sporting Rifles A-E, the Alexander Arms AAR17 and the CMMG Mk 4 Series have been added. In the DPMS .22LR Series entry, the .22 Bull Barrel version has been added.

In German SMGs, the Umarex/Walther MP5A5 has been added to the Heckler & Koch MP5 entry.

Egyptian SP Artillery was heavily corrected and partially rewritten.

In French SP Artillery, the AMX GCT-155 has been split into several sections to reflect the different variants, and the AUF 1T/TA and AUF 2 have been added to the entry. The GIAT Caesar has also been split into several sections for variants, and the Mk 2 and Caesar 2 have been added to the entry. All entries on the page have been heavily rewritten and corrected.

In German SP Artillery, all entries have been heavily rewritten and corrected. Specific updates include, under the Rheinmetall M109A3G entry, the M109A3G w/KUKA AHK. The PzH2000 includes separate sections for Dutch PzH2000s and the German 2013 PzH2000 upgrade. A new addition are the AGM-based vehicles.

In Riflescopes and Other Weapon Scopes, the Trijicon RX34 Reflex Sight was added.

[pmulcahy11b]

I've missed posting a lot of them (I highly recommend looking at last year's updates).

Last Year's Updates: http://www.pmulcahy.com/misc_pages/updates_2018.htm

The New 2019 Updates page: http://www.pmulcahy.com/misc_pages/updates_2019.html

29 Jan 19

In US Battle Rifles A-L, the Armalite AR-10 has had added more information, some corrected stats, and the AR-10A (which sounds like the designation of an old AR-10, but is actually the designation of one of the newest versions of the AR-10) was added.

In German Pistols N-Z, the Walther PPQ has been added.

In Italian Pistols - Beretta, the M70 has had some stats modified, some new information added, and the M71 with a faux suppressor entry has been added.

In Swiss Pistols, the SIG-Sauer P320 has been greatly expanded, with new versions, information, and stats.

In US Pistols A, the Auto-Ordnance BKO and Archon Type B have been added.

In US Pistols D-F, the Dan Wesson Vigil has been added.

In US Pistols G-H, the Guncrafter HOSS has its designation fixed, and has some more information added. The Honor Defense Honor Guard has been added.

In US Pistols K, the Kimber Micro has been added.

In US Pistols - Ruger, the Security-9 has been added, and the missing weight figure for the SR1911 Lightweight Commander has been put in.

In US Pistols Sa-Sl, the SIG-Sauer USA M17 has been added. (I put it there instead of under the SIG-Sauer P320 on the Swiss Pistols page because it is made exclusively in the US, specifically for the US Military.)

In US Pistols - Smith & Wesson, the Model 41 has had more information added, the New Model 41 has been added, and the Model 41 PC has been added.

In US Pistols - Springfield, the 911 has been added.

In US Revolvers - Charter Arms & Charles Daly, the Charter Arms Bulldog entry has had the Bulldog XL added, and the Charter Arms Mag Pug has had the .41 Magnum version added.

In US Revolvers M-N, the Magnum Research BFR has had several new calibers and one new barrel length added.

In US Bolt-Action Sporting Rifles L-M, the Marlin XT has been added.

In US Bolt-Action Sporting Rifles - Savage, the BVT and Mark II have been added.

In Italian Lever-Action Rifles, the Uberti M1886 has been added.

In US Lever-Action Rifles A-H, the Big Horn Armory Type 89 entry has had the Models 89A, 89B, 90A, and 90B added.

In US Single & Double-Barrel Sporting Rifles S-Z, the Thompson/Center Encore entry has had added the Encore Hunter version. (This, by the way, makes the Thompson/Center Encore entry simply ginormous -- I'm probably going to have to split it up despite the fact that the Encore and the Encore Hunter are closely-related rifles.)

In US Pump-Action Shotguns S-Z, the Stevens 320 has been added.

In Chinese Autocannons, the 30mm Type 730, 35mm PG99, and 35mm PG99-1 have been added.

In Chinese SAMs, the DY-90/TY-90/LY-90 and FN-6 have been added.

In Textron Civilian Vehicles (which is a new page), the Stampede has been added.

In Indian Self-Propelled Artillery, The Mk 2 and Mk 3 versions have been added to the DRDO M46 Catapult entry, and the Bhim/Ayeja has been added to the DRDO/Denel Bhim entry. Also, in general, a lot of new information has been added, and stats adjusted.

In Romanian Self-Propelled Artillery, the ROMARM Model 89 has had more information added, and its stats adjusted.

In Russian Self-Propelled Artillery, all of the entries have had new information added and stats refigured. Under the Kharkov 2S1, the 2S1T version has been added. Under the Uraltransmash 2S3, the 2S3M, 2S3M1, 2S3M2, 2S3M2-155, and 2S3M3 have been added. Under the Uraltransmash 2S5, the 2S5M has been added. Under the Uraltransmash 2S7 entry, the 2S7M Mialka has been added. Under the Uraltransmash 2S19, the 2S19M1, 2S19M1-155, 2S19M2, 2S33 Msta-SM2, and 2S30 Iset have been added.

In Chinese Tracked SP Antiaircraft, the Type 95/04/07/09 have been added (they are one entry). The Type 63 and Type 69-37-2 have been refigured and a little more information added. The Type 80 has been refigured and more information has been added, and the Type 80-37-2 subtype has been added.

In Chinese Wheeled SP Antiaircraft, the HN-5 SAM Vehicle has has some new information added and its stats refigured; in addition, the designation has been changed. The BK-1060, EQ2050/FN-6A SAM Vehicle and LD-2000 have been added.

In Miscellaneous Equipment, the Streamlight Super Siege Lantern, the Pelican 3310 ELS Lantern, the Falhoelter Mini Bolt Light, Surefire P2X Fury, the TerraLUX 80 Penlight, and the Cyclops Nexus HID Flashlight have been added. The Krypton Flashlight, Military Flashlight, Military Krypton Flashlight, the Penlight, and the Mini-Maglite have been sharpened.

[pmulcahy11b]

14 May 18

In Chinese Assault Rifles, The QTS-11 has been added to the Norinco QBZ-03 entry.

In US Assault Rifles D-F, the F-1 Firearms BDR-15-G3 has been added.

In Italian Pistols - Beretta, the APX has been added.

In US Pistols A, under the AMT/Galena Automag Series, the .41 JMP chambering has been added.

In International SA Shotguns, the Armscor VR60 has been added.

In Italian Double & Single-Barrel Shotguns A-Be, the Benelli 828U has been added.

In US BA Sporting Rifles B-C, the Barrett Fieldcraft has been added.

In US BA Sporting Rifles E-I, the Henry Mini-Bolt has been added.

In Belgian SA Sporting Rifles, the Mark 2 Safari and Mark 3 Safari have been added to the Browning BAR entry. (This entry may be broken up in the future.)

In Italian Single-Shot & Double Sporting Rifles, the Cimarron 1874 Sharps Sporting Rifles have been moved here from their incorrect place in US Single-Shot and Double Sporting Rifles A-D. The Uberti M1885 High Wall has been added.

In US Single-Shot & Double Sporting Rifles R-Z, the Chipmunk entry has been redesignated the Rogue River Chipmunk and moved here from US Single-Shot & Double Rifles A-D. The Savage Cub Youth has been added.

In British Sniper Rifles, the AX PSR has added to the Accuracy International AW Rifles. (Don't be surprised if this mega-entry gets broken up for next time.)

Firearms firing .45-70 and .32-20 have had their stats corrected.

In Swiss Submachineguns, the Brugger & Thomet APC/APS has been added.

In Blackpowder Handguns, the Maynard US Model 1855 has been added.

In Russian Rocket Launchers, The MRO has been added to the RPO entry.

In Israeli SAMs, the Tamir has been added.

In British Tracked APCs, the Warrior 2000 has been removed from the FV-510 entry The Warrior 2000 has been moved to Best APCs That Never Were. Both entries have been expanded and ciorrected.

In Serbian SP Artillery, The Yugoimport Alekander, and M09 have been added. The M03 version of the B-52 NORA has been added; in the MTI 30/04 SORA 122, several corrections and new information has been added, along with the SORA-C version.

In South African SP Artillery, the Denel/GDLS LAV III/T7 has been added. The Denal T5 entry has been renamed to the T5-52 Condoir Entry, and has both the versions with the 52-caliber and 45-caliber guns. The LIW G6 Rhino has had sever subsections added, including G6/52, Al-Manjoon/All-Fao, and G6 1A3.

In South Korean SP Artillery, The K9 Thunder has been greatly expanded and has had new information added and stats corrected. In addition, the K9A1 and now-drawing-board XK9A2 versions have been added, as well as the Turkish T-155 Firtina version.

In Swedish SP Artillery, the Bofors Bandkanon 1 has been greatly expanded and stats corrected, and the Bofors FH77AD Archer has been expanded and has had stats corrected, and the FH77BD and FH77BW have been added.

In Best Light Combat Vehicles That Never Were, the M1072 Clark Fighting Vehicle was added.

A new Howitzer Rounds page has been made; this is largely the new format I will use, though I may add to it in the future, and it is still very much a page under construction.

[pmulcahy11b]

http://www.pmulcahy.com/misc_pages/updates_2019.html

25 Aug 19

In US Pistols D-F, the Entreprise Elite has been added.

In US Pistols St-Sz, the STI Competititor has been added. The edge has been corrected and has has 10mm Auto added.

In US Revolvers G-L, the Horvath Modified Ruger Revolvers has been added.

In US Revolvers - Smith & Wesson 10-30, Under Model 27, Jerry Miculek's version has been added. Under the Model 29, Cooper's version in .440 Cor-Bon has been added.

In US Revolvers - Smith & Wesson 61-450, the Model 396 MountainLite has been added.

In Melee Weapons, the Benchmade Osborne 770, Camillus EDC, CRKT Wasp, Delta Z Osprey, Kershshaw Scallion, and the Spyderco Lum Chinese have been added.

In Syrian SP Artillery, The T-34/122 has been generally updated and corrected.

In Turkish SP Artillery, all vehicles have been updated and corrected; in particular, the new version of the M44T (seen in 2015 news footage) has been added. In addition, the MKE Yavuz has been added.

In US SP Artillery, all entries have been greatly updated, particularly the M7 and M109.

In US Tanks, the Cadillac M1 Abrams has been greatly updated, expanded, and corrected.

In Best SPA That Never Were, The ASELSAN Tafun was added.

The F-20 Tigershark was removed from US Fighters and moved to Best Aircraft That Never Were. In addition, it has been updated, expanded, and corrected.

The .25-06 entries in the various places (mostly in Sporting Rifles) have been changed to reflect the fact that they are actually magnum rounds.

Further updates will be delayed. The computer I use to my T2K work has a broken CPU fan and I won't be able to do any more until that is taken care of,

[swaghauler]

http://www.pmulcahy.com/misc_pages/updates_2019.html

25 Aug 19

In US Pistols D-F, the Entreprise Elite has been added.

In US Pistols St-Sz, the STI Competititor has been added. The edge has been corrected and has has 10mm Auto added.

In US Revolvers G-L, the Horvath Modified Ruger Revolvers has been added.

In US Revolvers - Smith & Wesson 10-30, Under Model 27, Jerry Miculek's version has been added. Under the Model 29, Cooper's version in .440 Cor-Bon has been added.

In US Revolvers - Smith & Wesson 61-450, the Model 396 MountainLite has been added.

In Melee Weapons, the Benchmade Osborne 770, Camillus EDC, CRKT Wasp, Delta Z Osprey, Kershshaw Scallion, and the Spyderco Lum Chinese have been added.

In Syrian SP Artillery, The T-34/122 has been generally updated and corrected.

In Turkish SP Artillery, all vehicles have been updated and corrected; in particular, the new version of the M44T (seen in 2015 news footage) has been added. In addition, the MKE Yavuz has been added.

In US SP Artillery, all entries have been greatly updated, particularly the M7 and M109.

In US Tanks, the Cadillac M1 Abrams has been greatly updated, expanded, and corrected.

In Best SPA That Never Were, The ASELSAN Tafun was added.

The F-20 Tigershark was removed from US Fighters and moved to Best Aircraft That Never Were. In addition, it has been updated, expanded, and corrected.

The .25-06 entries in the various places (mostly in Sporting Rifles) have been changed to reflect the fact that they are actually magnum rounds.

Further updates will be delayed. The computer I use to my T2K work has a broken CPU fan and I won't be able to do any more until that is taken care of,

OH NO, SIR! You don't get off that easily. Where in the hell is the Hi-Point YEET CANNON! The most talked-about gun of 2019!

Yes... this IS a thing.

[pmulcahy11b]

I grant you, I'm bit late with the notification, but...

27 Dec 19

In Indian Attack Helicopters (a new page), the HAL Dhruv has been added.

In Czech Tracked EV, the VT-72M4 ARV has been added.

In Chinese Tracked APCs, the Type 05 has been added.

The TAMSE TAM has been removed from the German Tracked LCVs page and moved to a new page, Argentine Tracked LCVs, where the entry has been greqatly expanded and corrected.

In Croatian MRLs, the page has been almost totally rewritten, with the M-92 Vulkan added.

In Czech MRLs, The RM-70 has been greatly expanded, and the Excalibur Arms BM-21MT has been added.

In Egyptian MRLs, entries have been corrected and fleshed out.

In Russian SP Guns, the 1K17 Szhatie "Laser Tank" has been added.

In British Tanks, the Challenger Series has had added two possible Challenger 2 upgrades and a fictional variant -- the Megatron, the Black Night, and the ADUT.

In Austrian Medium Unarmored Vehicles, the Steyr Pinzgauer HMATV has been added.

In Best APCs that Never Were, the Avro Bobcat was added.

I have tried a new idea, ECM & Stealth in T2K Rules, as a house rule/add-on. I will begin incorporating these ruels as time goes by -- of course, health and activities mean that this will implement slowly. In addition, some of the aircraft and helicopters have had their AV ratings restored -- this list will again grow as time goes by.

[Legbreaker]

I grant you, I'm bit late with the notification, but...

You won't hear any complaints from us! We're all just happy you're doing them.
It will be a very sad day when you're no longer able.

[Gunner]

VERY Cool!

[pmulcahy11b]

25 Jan 20

In US Attack Aircraft, the AT-6 Wolverine has been added.

In Chinese Bombers, the Xi'an H-20 has been added. This is a new page.

In US Attack Helicopters, the AH-64 Apache has been greatly expanded and updated, including updating on the WAH-64, and references and entries to the YAH-64F, the Sea Apache, and the AH-64D Block 2 Compound. The AH-64E Apache Guardian has been added.

In British Tracked Engineer Vehicles the Trojan has been updated and corrected.

In German MRLs, the LARS 110mm entry has been greatly expanded and now includes the LARS SF2 as well as the SF1.

In Indian MRLs has been greatly expanded to include the Pinaka I and Pinaka II, and corrected.

A new page, Iranian MRLs, has been added, with the HM 20 Hadid.

In Italian MRLs, the FIROS-6 has been partially expanded and fully corrected; the FIROS 25/30 has been somewhat expanded and fully corrected.

A new page, Austrian Self-Propelled Guns, has been added, with the MOWAG Piranha 5 10x10.

A new page, Indian Heavy Unarmored Vehicles, has been added, with the Ashok Leyland Super Stallion.

In Best Tanks That Never Were, the MB-3 Tamoyo and the Shilden-Leclerc have been added.

In Best SPG That Never Were, the BSTT Chimera was added.

[pmulcahy11b]

25 Mar 20

In MRLs, the new pages of Azerbaijani MRLs, Belorussian MRLs, Georgian MRLs, North Korean MRLs, Pakistani MRLs, and Ukrainian MRLs have been added.

In Japanese MRLs, the Type 75 MRL has been expanded and updated, and the Type 75 Weather Vehicle and Type 75 Reload Vehicle have been added to the entry.

In Romanian MRLs, The APR-40 entry has been expanded and corrected, and also now includes the APR-21, APRA-40, and LAROM versions.

The entire Russian MRLs page has been updated and almost totally rewritten.

In Polish Engineer Vehicles, the WZT-3 entries have been corrected, the WZT-4 has been added.

In Brazilian Tracked Light Combat Vehicles, the X1A entries have been totally redone.

In British Tracked Light Combat Vehicles, the Ajax was added.

In Russian Wheeled Light Combat Vehicles, under the BTR-80 entry, the PU-12M6 and PU-12M7 AAA/SAM Command Post Vehicles have been added.

A new page, Canadian Tanks, has been added, with the heavily-modified Canadian versions of the Leopard 1 and Leopard 2.

A new page, Belarussian Heavy Unarmored Vehicles, has been added, with the MAZ-6317.

A new page, Belorussian Medium Unarmored Vehicles, has been added, with the MAZ-5316.

Chinese Attack Helicopters is a new page, with the Z-10.

In Best Aircraft That Never Were, the Mitsubishi/Lockheed Martin F-3 was added.

In Best SP Antiaircraft That Never Were, the 2S38 Derivaciya was added.

In Best SP Guns That Never Were, the BSTT Excalibur and the Nuffeld A39 Tortoise were added.

A new page, US Unmanned Ground Vehicles, has been added.

In French ASMs, the missing price figures for the AS.20's HEAT and KEP/HE warheads have been put in.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Hey Paul, I was just over at your site, wandering through the SMG section and I noticed that for the Swedish M/45 the select-fire model made for the Swedish police is labelled as the M/45E. It should be listed as M/45BE.
There was also a model of the BE adapted to fire blanks only to launch tear gas grenades, the M/45BET.

There's a brief mention of it at the Historical Firearms website, the info accompanies a very interesting photo of Swedish police body armour. The head protection shown could be an interesting sight coming at you through smoke or fog!

https://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/154694969754/in-action-carl-gustav-m45-this-unusual

[pmulcahy11b]

12 Aug 20

In US Battle Rifles A-L, under the Colt LE901-16S entry, the Recoil magazine special build of the rifle has been added.

In Swiss Pistols, the Sphinx (Kriss) SDP has been added.

In Melee Weapons, the Benchmade Volli, Coast Products Rapid Response 3.30, CRKT Fire Spark, Gerber Propel Downrange AO, Kershaw Blur Glassbreaker, SOG SlimJim, and ZT Tolerance G-10 AO have been added.

In Austrian Tracked Engineer Vehicles, minor tweaks and corrections have been made.

In Belgian Tracked Engineer Vehicles, corrections have been made and a little more information has been added.

In Brazilian Tracked Engineer Vehicles, some corrections have been made.

In British Tracked Engineer Vehicles, the version with applique armor has been added to the AEV FV4003 Centurion AVRE entry. The Chieftain-based tracked engineer vehicles have been gathered into one entry. The Kenyan version of the Vickers ARRV has been added. All have been corrected and tweaked.

In Israeli Tracked Engineer Vehicles, the Merkava Mk 3 Nemmeraa ARV has been added, the and tweaks and corrections have been done to the rest of the page.

In Russian Tracked Engineer Vehicles, the R-330ZH Borisoglebsk 2 has been added.

A new page, Serbian Tracked Engineer Vehicles, has been added, with the VIU-55 Munja.

A new page, Ukranian Tracked Engineer Vehicles, has been added, with the BREM-84 Atlet.

In Austrian Wheeled Engineer Vehicles, the Piranha III Armored CBRN Recon Vehicle has been added.

In Russian Wheeled Engineer Vehicles, the UNSh-12 Infauna has been added, and the rest of the page has been given corrections and tweaks.

In Best Engineer Vehicles That Never Were, the Future Armor Rearm System has been added.

Something I forgot to put on the Update Page is on the PDF Page.
there you will find download links for the spreadsheets I use as well as the huge amount of add-ons and fudges I use,



04 Jun 20

In US Assault Rifles A-C, the ATI Omni Hybrid was added.

In French Automatic Rifles, under the Chauchat, the CR 1918 has been added.

In US Automatic Rifles, the modified M1918 BAR made by Clyde Barrow (of Bonnie and Clyde fame) has been added.

In British Battle Rifles, the Martini-Henry/Enfield was added.

In Belgian Pistols - Browning, the Black Label Medallion has been added.

In Italian Pistols - Beretta, under M93R, the Ciener .22 Conversion has been added.

A new page, Jordanian Pistols, has been added, with the KADDB Viper.

In US PA Shotguns G-L, the Inland versions of the Ithaca 37 Trench Gun have been added to the Ithaca 37: Military & Police Models entry.

In US Lever-Action Rifles - Marlin, under the Model 336 entry, the Model 336TDL has been added.

In Best Sniper Rifles that Never Were, the AR-1 Parasniper has had much more information added and many corrections made.

In Russian Grenade Launchers, the TekhMash 6327 Balkan has been added.

In British ASMs, the Brimstone was added.

In Swedish Mortar Carriers, the Mjolner has been added.

US MRLs have been updated, to include the HIMARS/SLAMRAAM, the M270 MARS2/LRU, and M270D1.

US Light Unarmored Vehicles have been updated to include the new JLTV. (Yes, there was a question in my mind as to whether to include the JLTV under Wheeled APCs, but as it is basically a HMMWV replacement, I elected to put it under Unarmored Vehicles.)

[CDAT]

US Light Unarmored Vehicles have been updated to include the new JLTV. (Yes, there was a question in my mind as to whether to include the JLTV under Wheeled APCs, but as it is basically a HMMWV replacement, I elected to put it under Unarmored Vehicles.)

Now I was out before they finalized what they were going with for it, and I never used then, but was around and saw them driving around base and some of the training areas. They were all armored to at least the same level as the up-armored HMMWV, so should they not be a light armored vehicle as they will stop up to machine gun fire

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Now I was out before they finalized what they were going with for it, and I never used then, but was around and saw them driving around base and some of the training areas. They were all armored to at least the same level as the up-armored HMMWV, so should they not be a light armored vehicle as they will stop up to machine gun fire

From the info I've seen, the vehicle works on the concept of being fitted to allow protection kits to be added but already comes with a small amount of armour. The base vehicle has minimal armour placed around areas difficult to access while in the field. For better protection kits are provided to allow fitting while in the field with basic tools.
So it's a bit of "six of one, half a dozen of the other" situation - not armoured enough to be considered a "protected" vehicle but it still has a level of armour fitted at the factory so that you don't have to fuss around with it in the field.

[CDAT]

From the info I've seen, the vehicle works on the concept of being fitted to allow protection kits to be added but already comes with a small amount of armour. The base vehicle has minimal armour placed around areas difficult to access while in the field. For better protection kits are provided to allow fitting while in the field with basic tools.
So it's a bit of "six of one, half a dozen of the other" situation - not armoured enough to be considered a "protected" vehicle but it still has a level of armour fitted at the factory so that you don't have to fuss around with it in the field.

I will defer to you as it sounds like you have done research into them. I just was round them, but all the ones that I saw were armored to at least the Frag 5 level (able to take a .50 BMG to the windshield with out penetration). Not sure if that is the base line, or a upgraded one bu they were just running around Ft. Lewis so not in a combat zone.