The what was they thinking thread

[Panther Al]

Bouncing around the internet you can find all sorts of weird things, but this one is up there as a winner for the "What was you thinking" award in the firearms category.

Gentlemen, I bring to you, the .950 JDJ.

What more needs to be said about a rifle whose cartridge design starts with a 20mm cannon shell, and then necks it out

A Rifle that could weigh between 80 to 100 pounds, 20 of which is the muzzlebrake. And that only drops the recoil to 200 foot pounds.

A round that has to be machined and weighs in at just over half a pound (Yes, Pound), runs you 40 bucks complete with case, and has stats like 2200 FPS and a muzzle enrgy north of 38 thousand pounds.

[kota1342000]

http://www.youtube.com/watchv=GcEvBwMKZ9s

Awesome! heehee

[Tegyrius]

This is what happens when you let someone design a cartridge on a drunken bet.

I'm almost ashamed to say this, but I wish I had a ballistic coefficient for it so I could run up a full Reflex damage table. At the muzzle the raw values are Dam 26/Pen x1 (adjusted for large-caliber crazy, it'd be Dam 19), but I suspect that's going to drop off quite rapidly over distance.

- C.

[Panther Al]

*hrms* Since it appears that the projectile itself are all handmade on a lathe out of bronze, you could argue any bullet design you want, so... *shrugs* Figure a round with the same profile and coefficient as a .50BMG

I'm *very* curious to what the V2.2 statline for this thing is to be honest.

[Legbreaker]

I can see the Bulk and Recoil values being through the roof!

[pmulcahy11b]

Get me more info and I'll do the stats just for fun! Though I would think it would be similar to a 20mm antimateriel rifle.

[Panther Al]

SSK in Ohio makes the rifle and the round, and from what I have seen its a custom job to order for each, at 8k+ each. I used what info they gave to try to run it through whats in IWW and the dmg line was through the roof, so I think I was mucking something up. For more exact stats, I am not sure what they would be or where they could be found. As far as recoil goes, everything I read says this is not a rifle you shoot with it tucked into your shoulder, they recommend a lead sled.

[Legbreaker]

Which bumps the Bulk up even higher!
Don't even DREAM about hitting a moving target. In fact, you might even have trouble hitting a stationary target since the weapon is so damn big and heavy, minute adjustments to the aim have to be done with a sledge hammer!

[mikeo80]

Now that's crazy!!!!!!

Although....

In a time travel scenario....

That thing could be set up for a kill zone for a T-Rex.

Dead carcass out in the open somewhere to entice Mr. T......

This monster set up and scoped for the distance to target....

BOOOOOOOMMMMMMM

T-Rex burgers for dinner....

Yummy

[HorseSoldier]

Similar bad idea explained . . .

[Legbreaker]

On the topic of questionable decisions/orders:

"Stopping an unarmoured and unarmed vehicle in the middle of a nighttime ambush kill zone to dismount infantry when the road ahead, and behind are totally clear. At least 10 small arms, including at least one automatic weapon are spraying lead into the kill zone at the time."

Discuss.

[Targan]

Shouldn't the title of this thread be "The what were they thinking thread"

[Snake Eyes]

Only if you is referring to a version of English spoke by foreigners.

[dragoon500ly]

On the topic of questionable decisions/orders:

"Stopping an unarmoured and unarmed vehicle in the middle of a nighttime ambush kill zone to dismount infantry when the road ahead, and behind are totally clear. At least 10 small arms, including at least one automatic weapon are spraying lead into the kill zone at the time."

Discuss.

Hmmmmm...perhaps its the feeling of invincibility that the new Army Advanced Combat Uniform gives

[dragoon500ly]

The Vietnam-era LRRP consisted of six men, when these people went into the jungle on recon, they got to carry:

2 PRC-25 backpack radios fitted with short antennae, and carrying a long antennae and two handsets (1 spare).

Spare radio batteries

1 Starlight Scope

4 Strobe Lights

6 Trip Flares

4 Star Clusters

4 Parachute Flares

4 VS-17 marker panels

4 WP hand grenades

4 CS hand grenades

4 M-72 LAAWs

2 WP rifle grenades with crimped ballistic cartridges

2 pairs 6x30 binoculars

2 Medic Bags

1,500 rounds of 7.62mm linked

120 40mm HE shells

10 40mm Buckshot shells

6 40mm Parachute Flare shells

15 20-round magazines for the XM-21

30 30-round magazines for each M-16

The individials would be armed with:

Team Leader with M-16
Assistant Team Leader with M-79
Radio Telephone Operator with M-16
Scout with XM-21 sniper rifle with scope
Scout with M-16
Scout with M-60

Each man would also carry;
8 quarts of water (at least 4 1qt, and 2 2dt canteens)

2 Smoke hand grenades

2 Compasses

1 M-17A1 chemical protective mask

2 Signal mirrors

2 Battle dressings

6 M-26 or M-33 Frag hand grenades

2 Claymore mines

1 Ka-Bar knife

1 Weapons Cleaning Kit

1 Wrist Watch

1 Poncho

50 Salt Tablets

1 bottle Insect repellant

50m Parachute suspension line

1 Pen Flare

1 map of area

3-5 days LRRP rations

Carabiner with 25m climbing rope

The minimum weight for a 48-hour patrol was 70 pounds per man and loads of up to 100 pounds were not uncommon.

What fun it must have been to sneak through the jungle with 100lbs of gear, trying not to leave a trail or break any branches...and trying not to make any noise...