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  • British reserve forces during world war 3

    The TA (and, to a certain extent the HSF) is probably well worth a thread of its own imho...
    Well you asked!


    So here it is a discussion point for everyone to display their thoughts and their opinion on British reserve forces, namely the Territorial Army, Home service force and Regular reserve. There is also the Royal Naval reserve, the RAF reserve and the Royal marines reserve, however I am unsure of the numbers of these in 1989. The British army reserve amounts to some 305,000 men in 1989, 86,000 territorials, and 5,000 home service force and 153,000 regular reserve.

    The conventional defensive NATO vs. Warsaw Pact scenario planned by the British army made extensive use of the reserve forces. 2nd infantry Division used to reinforce British 1 Corps communications lines was made up of 2 T.A infantry Brigades. Plus it was assumed many missing gaps in personnel numbers in the regular armoured divisions would be brought up to War establishment by the regular reserve.

    However, the twilight scenario is different: NATO goes on the offensive. 2nd infantry Division becomes 2nd armoured division, BOAR is reinforced with the 5th armoured division and a 6th infantry division is used in the Far East. Along with a Light Brigade in the Middle East, Britain"s forces are spread all over the world yet the mention of the reserves is barely there. Canon does note that the reserves are called up, in early 1995 and that for some reason territorials delegate themselves to town councils.

    There is a very good TA lineage for the benefit of all at http://www.win.tue.nl/~drenth/BritAr...ge/lineage.pdf. I believe someone posted it on here before.Many thanks to whomever that was. It covers most units that would be around during the cold war. However it does not include the medical units (If Anyone does have an ORBAT for all British medical units prior to options for change, I'd be very interested!)

    So do you expand the reserve forces What TA regiments Go rogue in 1997 after the soviet strikes
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  • #2
    OK, I will start, this what I came up with:

    Army

    Home Defence Command

    39 (South East) Brigade - Shorncliffe, UK
    • E (Home Service Force) Company, 6th/7th (Volunteer) Battalion The Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment.
    • E (Home Service Force) Company, 3rd (Volunteer) Battalion, The Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment
    • E (Home Service Force) Company, 4th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Green Jackets
    • I (Home Service Force) Company, 5th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Green Jackets

    42nd (Northwest) Brigade - Chester, UK
    • 3rd Battalion, The Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters Regiment (TA)
    • 5th/8th Battalion (Volunteer), The King's Regiment (TA)
    • The London Regiment (TA)
    • 3rd (Volunteer) Battalion, Cheshire Regiment (TA)
    • E (Home Service Force) Company, 5th/8th (Volunteer) Battalion, The King's Regiment
    • E (Home Service Force) Company, 3rd (Volunteer) Battalion, The Cheshire Regiment
    • F (Home Service Force) Company, 3rd Battalion, The Worcestershire & Sherwood Foresters Regiment
    • G (Home Service Force) Company, 3rd Battalion, The Worcestershire & Sherwood Foresters Regiment
    • F (Home Service Force) Company, 4th Battalion, The Worcestershire & Sherwood Foresters Regiment

    43rd (Wessex) Brigade - Exeter, UK
    • The Royal Wessex Yeomanry (TA)
    • 2nd Battalion (TA), The Wessex Regiment (Volunteers)
    • 6th Battalion (TA), The Light Infantry
    • 4th (Volunteer) Battalion (TA), The Devonshire and Dorset Regiment
    • 302 (Home Service Force) Squadron, The Royal Corps of Transport
    • G (Home Service Force) Company, 4th Battalion, The Devon & Dorset Regiment
    • 18 (Home Service Force) Platoon, 5th Battalion, The Light Infantry
    • E (Home Service Force) Company, 6th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Light Infantry
    • F (Home Service Force) Company, 6th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Light Infantry
    • E (Wiltshire Yeomanry) (Home Service Force) Squadron, The Royal Wessex Yeomanry

    49 (East Midlands) Brigade - Chilwell, UK
    • H (Home Service Force) Company, 3rd Battalion, The Prince of Wales's Own Regiment of Yorkshire (Yorkshire Volunteers)
    • S (Home Service Force) Company, 6th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
    • E (Home Service Force) Company, 7th Battalion, The (Durham) Light Infantry (Volunteers)
    • 347 Signals Squadron, (Home Service Force), 11 Signals Regiment, Royal Signals
      300/301 (Home Service Force) Squadron, The Royal Corps of Transport

    51st (Highland) Brigade - Stirling, UK
    • 3rd (Volunteer) Battalion (TA), The Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment)
    • 3rd (Volunteer) Battalion (TA), The Highlanders (Seaforth, Gordons and Camerons)
    • 7th/8th (Volunteer) Battalion (TA), The Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders (Princess Louise's)
    • Z (Home Service Force) Company, 1st Battalion, 3rd (Volunteer) Battalion The Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment)
    • W (Home Service Force) Company, 7th/8th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders (Princess Louise's)
    • Y (Home Service Force) Company, 3rd (Volunteer) Battalion, The Highlanders (Seaforth, Gordons and Camerons)
    • X (Home Service Force) Company, 3rd (Volunteer) Battalion, The Highlanders (Seaforth, Gordons and Camerons)

    52nd (Lowland) Brigade - Edinburgh, UK
    • 3rd (Volunteer) Battalion (TA), The Royal Highland Fusiliers (Princess Margaret's Own Glasgow and Ayrshire Regiment)
    • 1st Battalion, The Lowland Volunteers (TA)
    • F (Home Service Force) Company, 3rd (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Highland Fusiliers (Princess Margaret's Own Glasgow and Ayrshire Regiment)
    • G (Home Service Force) Company, 3rd (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Highland Fusiliers (Princess Margaret's Own Glasgow and Ayrshire Regiment)
    • 5 (Home Service Force) Company, 1st Battalion, The Lowland Volunteers

    54th (East Anglian) Brigade - Grantham, UK
    • 3rd (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Anglian Regiment (TA)
    • 6th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Anglian Regiment (TA)
    • 3rd Battalion, The Duke of Wellington's Regiment (Yorkshire Volunteers) (TA)
    • H (Home Service Force) Company, 3rd Battalion the Duke of Wellington's Regiment (Yorkshire Volunteers)
    • I (Home Service Force) Company, 3rd Battalion the Duke of Wellington's Regiment (Yorkshire Volunteers)
    • F (Home Service Force) Company, 6th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Anglian Regiment
    • 5 (Home Service Force) Company, 5th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Anglian Regiment
    • 6 (Home Service Force) Company, 5th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Anglian Regiment
    • E (Home Service Force) Company, 6th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Anglian Regiment
    • E (Home Service Force) Company, 7th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Anglian Regiment

    56th (London) Brigade - London, UK
    • 1st Battalion, The Welsh Guards
    • 1st Battalion, The Coldstream Guards
    • 1st Battalion, Irish Guards
    • 2nd Battalion, Scots Guard
    • 2nd Battalion, Grenadier Guards
    • Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment (1x Life Guards Squadron and 1x The Blues and Royals (Royal Horse Guards and 1st Dragoons) Squadron)
    • A (Home Service Force) Company, The Honourable Artillery Company
    • B (Home Service Force) Company, The Honourable Artillery Company
    • 5 (Home Service Force) Company, 10th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Parachute Regiment
    • 348 (Home Service Force) Squadron, The Inns of Court & City Yeomanry
    • H (Home Service Force) Company, 4th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Green Jackets

    107th (Ulster) Brigade – Londonderry, Northern Ireland
    • 4th Battalion, Ulster Defence Regiment
    • 5th Battalion, Ulster Defence Regiment
    • 6th Battalion, Ulster Defence Regiment
    • 8th Battalion, Ulster Defence Regiment

    108th (Lisburn) Brigade – Lisburn, Northern Ireland
    • 1st/9th Battalion, Ulster Defence Regiment
    • 3rd Battalion, Ulster Defence Regiment
    • 7th/10th Battalion, Ulster Defence Regiment

    109th (Belfast) Brigade – Belfast, Northern Ireland
    • 2nd Battalion, Ulster Defence Regiment
    • 3rd Battalion, Ulster Defence Regiment
    • 11th Battalion, Ulster Defence Regiment

    143rd (West Midlands) Brigade - Shrewsbury, UK
    • The Royal Mercian and Lancastrian Yeomanry (TA)
    • West Midlands Regiment (TA)
    • D (Home Service Force) (Duke of Lancaster's Own Yeomanry) Squadron, The Royal Mercian and Lancastrian Yeomanry
    • C (Home Service Force) Squadron, The Royal Mercian and Lancastrian Yeomanry
    • A (Home Service Force) Battery, 103 Air Defence (Lancashire Artillery Volunteers) Regiment, Royal Artillery
    • E (Home Service Force) Company, 4th (Volunteer) Battalion, The King's Own Royal Border Regiment
    • G (Home Service Force) Company, 5th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
    • E (Home Service Force) Company, 3rd Battalion, The Staffordshire Regiment (Prince of Wales')


    160th (Welsh) Brigade - Brecon, UK
    • 1st Battalion, The Regiment of Wales (Infantry Demonstration Unit)
    • 2nd (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Regiment of Wales (TA)
    • 3rd Battalion, The Royal Welch Fusiliers (TA)
    • E (Home Service Force) Company, 3rd (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Welch Fusiliers
    • E (Home Service Force) Company, 3rd (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Regiment of Wales
    • E (Home Service Force) Company, 4th (Volunteer) Battalion, The Royal Regiment of Wales

    Officers' Training Corps
    • Aberdeen University Officer Training Corps
    • Queen's University Officer Training Corps
    • Birmingham University Officer Training Corps
    • Bristol University Officer Training Corps
    • Cambridge University Officer Training Corps
    • City Of Edinburgh University Officer Training Corps
    • East Midlands University Officer Training Corps
    • Exeter University Officer Training Corps
    • Glasgow and Strathclyde University Officer Training Corps
    • Leeds University Officer Training Corps
    • Liverpool University Officer Training Corps
    • Manchester and Salford University Officer Training Corps
    • Northumbrian University Officer Training Corps
    • Oxford University Officer Training Corps
    • Sheffield University Officer Training Corps
    • Southampton University Officer Training Corps
    • Tayforth University Officer Training Corps
    • University of London Officer Training Corps
    • Wales University Officer Training Corps

    Overseas British Territorial Home Defence Units
    • The Royal Alderney Militia
    • The Royal Militia Island of Jersey
    • 4th Battalion, The Caribbean Regiment (With Companies in Anguilla, the British Virgin Islands, the Cayman Islands, the Turks and Caicos Islands, and the Bahamas)
    • 2nd Battalion, The Bermuda Regiment
    • The Falkland Islands Defence Force (Regulars/Volunteers)
    • The Saint Helena Defence Force (Regulars/Volunteers)
    • The Gibraltar Regiment (Volunteers/Regulars)
    • The Royal Hong Kong Regiment (The Volunteers)

    Royal Air Force Units:
    Royal Observer Corps
    • ROC Headquarters
    • Group No 1: Maidstone
    • Group No 2: Horsham
    • Group No 3: Oxford
    • Group No 4: Colchester
    • Group No 5: Watford
    • Group No 6: Norwich
    • Group No 7: Bedford
    • Group No 8: Coventry
    • Group No 9: Yeovil
    • Group No 10: Exeter
    • Group No 11: Truro
    • Group No 12: Bristol
    • Group No 13: South Wales
    • Group No 14: Winchester
    • Group No 15: Lincoln
    • Group No 16: Shrewsbuy
    • Group No 17: North Wales
    • Group No 18: Leeds
    • Group No 20: York
    • Group No 21: Preston
    • Group No 22: Carlisle
    • Group No 23: Durham
    • Group No 24: Edinburgh
    • Group No 25: Ayr
    • Group No 27: Oban
    • Group No 28: Dundee
    • Group No 29: Aberdeen
    • Group No 30: Inverness
    • Group No 31: Belfast

    The Royal Hong Kong Auxiliary Air Force

    United Kingdom Warning and Monitoring Organization
    The United Kingdom Warning and Monitoring Organismic (UKWMO) is a British civilian organization providing the authorities with data about nuclear explosions and forecasts of likely fallout profiles across the country in the event of war.
    UKWMO Sector Controls
    • Metropolitan Sector: co-located with 2 Group Control Horsham
    • Midland Sector: co-located with 7 Group Control Bedford
    • Southern Sector: co-located with 12 Group Control Bristol
    • Eastern Eector: co-located with 15 Group Control Lincoln
    • Western Sector: co-located with 21 Group Control Preston
    • Scottish Sector: co-located with 28 Group Control Dundee
    Last edited by Canadian Army; 02-23-2011, 03:48 AM. Reason: Forgot something
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    • #3
      Originally posted by dude_uk View Post
      Well you asked!
      LOL, I certainly did.

      OK, firstly here's my global British Army (and Royal Marines) orbat as of 01 December 1996 (i.e. after the shooting war starts in Norway but before the UK is involved in Germany). This includes Regular and TA units. I'm still working on a 01 June 2000 version.

      A few notes / comments

      1. Firstly, it is absolutely not canonical.

      2. It is still a work in progress and still has a few gaps in it, most noticeably the Royal Signals, both Regular and TA. HSF and UDR are also not listed.

      3. The framework is the Tanknet NATO orbat, with a few tweaks of my own. Whilst I've attempted to come up with something based on the Real World British Army orbat of the late 1980's. there are a few fictional formations / units. I have added two TA operational Brigades (44th Parachute and 51st Infantry - IRL 51st Infantry did exist but it was an administrative rather than operational command).

      4. I haven't added any additional TA Bns to the real life late 1980's orbat, although am considering it after looking at LouieD's listing of TA Bns that he posted a little while ago.

      5. Comments / feedback are most welcome.

      British Army Worldwide Order of Battle, 01 December 1996

      UK Special Forces
      21 Special Air Service Regiment (TA)
      22 Special Air Service Regiment
      23 Special Air Service Regiment (TA)
      Honourable Artillery Company (TA)
      Special Boat Service, Royal Marines
      Commachio Group, Royal Marines


      SACEUR Reserve
      5th Airborne Brigade
      B Sqn, The Life Guards (Recce)
      1st Battalion, Parachute Regiment
      2nd Battalion, Parachute Regiment
      2nd Battalion, 2nd King Edward VII's Own Gurkha Rifles
      7 Parachute Regiment, Royal Horse Artillery
      36 Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers


      1. British Army of the Rhine

      I British Corps

      Corps Troops
      4th Battalion, Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters (TA)

      44th Parachute Brigade (TA)
      4th Battalion, Parachute Regiment (TA)
      10th Battalion, Parachute Regiment (TA)
      15th Battalion, Parachute Regiment (TA)

      Artillery Brigade
      5 Heavy Regiment, Royal Artillery
      32 Heavy Regiment, Royal Artillery
      39 Heavy Regiment, Royal Artillery
      50 Missile Regiment, Royal Artillery
      8th Battalion, Queen's Fusiliers (TA)

      7 Air Defence Brigade, Royal Artillery
      12 Air Defence Regiment, Royal Artillery
      22 Air Defence Regiment, Royal Artillery
      102 (Ulster) Air Defence Regiment, Royal Artillery (TA)
      103 (Lancashire) Air Defence Regiment, Royal Artillery (TA)
      105 (Scottish) Air Defence Regiment, Royal Artillery (TA)

      29 Engineer Brigade
      23 Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers
      25 Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers
      28 Amphibious Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers
      32 Armoured Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers

      31 Engineer Brigade
      The Royal Monmouthshire Royal Engineers (TA)
      71 (Scottish) Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers (TA)
      72 (Tyne Electrical Engineers) Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers (TA)
      73 Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers (TA)
      74 (Antrim Artillery) Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers (TA)
      75 Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers (TA)

      1st Mechanised Brigade
      13th / 18th Royal Hussars (Recce; A and D Sqns only)
      17th / 21st Lancers (B and D Sqns only)
      1st Battalion, Devonshire and Dorset Regiment
      1st Battalion, Gloucestershire Regiment
      1st Battalion, Wessex Regiment (TA)
      26 Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
      22 Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers

      1st Armoured Division
      Queen's Dragoon Guards (Recce)
      7th Armoured Brigade
      Royal Scots Dragoon Guards
      2nd Royal Tank Regiment
      3rd Battalion, Royal Green Jackets
      4th Battalion, Royal Green Jackets (TA)
      12th Armoured Brigade
      5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards
      1st Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers
      1st Battalion, Royal Green Jackets
      22nd Armoured Brigade
      Queen's Own Hussars
      4th Royal Tank Regiment
      1st Battalion, Scots Guards
      2nd Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment
      Divisional Artillery / Engineers
      1 Regiment, Royal Horse Artillery
      4 Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
      40 Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
      21 Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers


      3rd Armoured Division
      9th / 12th Royal Lancers (Recce)
      4th Armoured Brigade
      14th / 20th King's Hussars (Less C Sqn)
      15th / 19th King's Royal Hussars
      1st Battalion, Grenadier Guards
      6th Armoured Brigade
      1st Royal Tank Regiment
      1st Battalion, Royal Highland Fusiliers
      1st Battalion, Gordon Highlanders
      33rd Armoured Brigade
      Royal Hussars
      1st Battalion, Prince of Wales' Own Regiment of Yorkshire
      1st Battalion, Queen's Lancashire Regiment
      Divisional Artillery / Engineers
      2 Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
      19 Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
      47 Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
      26 Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers


      4th Armoured Division
      16th / 5th Queen's Royal Lancers (Recce)
      11th Armoured Brigade
      3rd Royal Tank Regiment
      2nd Battalion, Queen's Regiment
      1st Battalion, Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders
      5th Battalion, Queen's Regiment (TA)
      20th Armoured Brigade
      Blues and Royals
      4th / 7th Royal Dragoon Guards
      2nd Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers
      5th / 8th Battalion, King's Regiment (TA)
      19th Infantry Brigade
      1st Battalion, King's Own Royal Border Regiment
      3rd Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment
      2nd Battalion, Light Infantry
      51st (Highland) Infantry Brigade (TA)
      1st Battalion, 52nd Lowland Volunteers (TA)
      1st Battalion, 51st Highland Volunteers (TA)
      2nd Battalion, 51st Highland Volunteers (TA)
      Divisional Artillery / Engineers
      3 Regiment, Royal Horse Artillery
      45 Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
      49 Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
      35 Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers


      2nd Infantry Division
      4th Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers (TA)
      5th Battalion, Royal Irish Rangers (TA)
      4th Battalion, Queen's Lancashire Regiment (TA)
      24th Airmobile Brigade
      1st Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
      1st Battalion, Black Watch [Note 1]
      1st Battalion, Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters
      15th Infantry Brigade (TA)
      Queen's Own Yeomanry (Recce)
      6th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
      7th Battalion, Light Infantry
      8th Battalion, Light Infantry
      1st Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers
      2nd Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers
      49th Infantry Brigade (TA)
      Royal Yeomanry (Recce)
      5th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
      5th Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment
      7th Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment
      5th Battalion, Light Infantry
      3rd Battalion, Staffordshire Regiment
      Divisional Artillery / Engineers
      27 Field Regiment, Royal Artillery
      100 Regiment, Royal Artillery (TA)
      101 Regiment, Royal Artillery (TA)
      38 Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers


      Berlin Brigade [2]
      C Squadron, 14th / 20th King's Hussars
      1st Battalion, King's Regiment
      3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers
      1st Battalion, Duke of Edinburgh's Royal Regiment


      2. United Kingdom Land Forces

      London District
      Household Cavalry Mounted Regiment [3]
      A Sqn, Life Guards [3]
      2nd Battalion, Grenadier Guards [3]
      1st Battalion, Coldstream Guards [3]
      2nd Battalion, Scots Guards [3]
      1st Battalion, Welsh Guards [3]
      16 Air Defence Regiment, Royal Artillery
      104 Air Defence Regiment, Royal Artillery (TA)
      101 (London) Engineer Regiment (EOD) (TA)

      2nd (South East) Infantry Brigade
      Duke of Lancaster's Yeomanry (TA) (Recce)
      6th / 7th Battalion, Queen's Regiment (TA)
      5th Battalion, Royal Green Jackets (TA)

      42nd (Northwest) Infantry Brigade
      3rd Battalion, Light Infantry [4]
      4th Battalion, King's Own Royal Border Regiment (TA)
      3rd Battalion, Cheshire Regiment (TA)

      43rd (Wessex) Infantry Brigade
      Royal Wessex Yeomanry (TA) (Recce)
      4th Battalion, Devonshire and Dorset Regiment (TA)
      2nd Battalion, Wessex Regiment (TA)
      6th Battalion, Light Infantry (TA)

      52nd (Lowland) Infantry Brigade
      1st Battalion, Queen's Own Highlanders [4]
      2nd Battalion, 52nd Lowland Volunteers (TA)
      3rd Battalion, 51st Highland Volunteers (TA)

      54th (East Anglian) Infantry Brigade
      Queen's Own Mercian Yeomanry (TA) (Recce) [4]
      6th Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment (TA)
      3rd Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers (TA)
      4th Battalion, Yorkshire Volunteers (TA)
      3rd Battalion, Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters (TA)

      143rd (West Midlands) Infantry Brigade
      2nd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers [4]

      160th (Welsh) Infantry Brigade
      3rd Battalion, Royal Welch Fusiliers (TA)
      4th Battalion, Royal Regiment of Wales (TA)

      Royal Armoured Corps Centre Resident Regiment
      Queen's Royal Irish Hussars

      Infantry Training Centre Resident Battalion
      A Squadron, 17th / 21st Lancers
      1st Battalion, Green Howards (Less C Company) [4]

      School of Artillery Resident Regiment
      14 Regiment, Royal Artillery

      30 Engineer Brigade
      39 Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers (Air Field Support)


      3. Northern Ireland

      3rd Infantry Brigade
      1st Battalion, Light Infantry [4]
      1st Battalion, Staffordshire Regiment [4]

      8th Infantry Brigade
      3rd Battalion, Queen's Regiment [4]
      1st Battalion, Royal Anglian Regiment [5]

      39th Infantry Brigade
      2nd Battalion, Coldstream Guards [4]
      1st Battalion, Royal Welch Fusiliers [4]
      1st Battalion, Queen's Regiment [6]


      4. Overseas

      Norway

      UK Contingent, Allied Mobile Force (Land)
      B Squadron, 13th / 18th Royal Hussars (Recce)
      2nd Battalion, Royal Green Jackets
      3rd Battalion, Parachute Regiment [7]
      5 (Gibraltar 1779 – 1783) Battery, Royal Artillery

      3 Commando Brigade, Royal Marines
      C Squadron, Life Guards (Recce)
      Mountain and Arctic Warfare Cadre
      40 Commando, Royal Marines [8]
      42 Commando, Royal Marines
      45 Commando, Royal Marines
      1st Battalion, Royal Netherlands Marines Corps
      29 Commando Regiment, Royal Artillery
      59 Commando Squadron, Royal Engineers


      Middle East

      25th Infantry Brigade
      C Squadron, 13th / 18th Royal Hussars (Recce)
      1st Battalion, King's Own Scottish Borderers [9]
      1st Battalion, 6th Queen Elizabeth's Own Gurkha Rifles
      1st Battalion, 7th Duke of Edinburgh's Own Gurkha Rifles


      Cyprus

      Joint Service Signal Unit (Cyprus) (Operated on behalf of GCHQ)

      Sovereign Base Area West
      1st Battalion, Irish Guards
      62 Squadron, Royal Engineers

      Sovereign Base Area East
      3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Wales (TA) [10]

      UN Forces [11]
      Recce Troop, 17th / 21st Lancers
      B Company, 1st Battalion, Royal Hampshire Regiment


      Brunei
      Jungle Warfare Training Centre
      1st Battalion, 10th Princess Mary's Own Gurkha Rifles


      Falkland Islands
      C Company, 1st Battalion, Green Howards
      Falkland Islands Defence Force


      Gibraltar
      1st Battalion, Duke of Wellington's Regiment
      The Royal Gibraltar Regiment (Reserve)


      Canada
      C Squadron, 17th / 21st Lancers
      1st Battalion, Cheshire Regiment
      1st Battalion, Royal Hampshire Regiment (Less B Company)


      Hong Kong

      41 Commando, Royal Marines
      The Queen's Gurkha Engineers
      The Royal Hong Kong Regiment (Volunteers)

      48th (Gurkha) Infantry Brigade
      1st Battalion, Royal Scots
      1st Battalion, 2nd King Edward VII's Own Gurkha Rifles
      2nd Battalion, 6th Queen Elizabeth's Own Gurkha Rifles
      2nd Battalion, 7th Duke of Edinburgh's Own Gurkha Rifles


      Notes

      1. Withdrawn from roulement tour of Northern Ireland Nov 1996

      2. Not subordinate to BAOR

      3. Forms part of HMG Special Duties Force in time of War

      4. Deploys to Europe as part of 5th Inf Dvn, Summer 1998; NI units withdraw from NI during 1997, to be replaced by UDR Battalions

      5. On roulement from 02nd Infantry Brigade; will rejoin 02nd Bde Dec 1996

      6. On roulement from 1st Infantry Brigade; transferred to BAOR January 1997

      7. Transferred from roulement tour of Northern Ireland to AMF(L) Nov 1996 following withdrawal of Belgian contingent; will transit to Middle East summer 1997

      8. Withdrawn from roulement tour of Northern Ireland Oct 1996

      9. Transferred from Cyprus Aug 1996; replaced with 3 RRW

      10. TA unit with BAOR tasking; deployed to Cyprus Aug 1996 as contingency measure to replace 1 KOSB

      11. UN Forces not currently under national command.
      Last edited by Rainbow Six; 02-13-2011, 09:18 AM. Reason: Fixing Typos
      Author of the unofficial and strictly non canon Alternative Survivor’s Guide to the United Kingdom

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dude_uk View Post
        What TA regiments Go rogue in 1997 after the soviet strikes
        This is some of what I have

        3/51st Highland Volunteers - core of Republic of Scotland armed forces

        3 Royal Welch Fusiliers - core of Welsh Government forces

        4 RRW - suffered heavy casualties during strikes on south Wales; disbanded, personnel split up, some serving with Welsh forces, others have turned marauder / mercenary

        3 Cheshire - destroyed in nuclear attacks on Liverpool / Manchester area. Small number of survivors can be found throughout the area in both lawful and unlawful groups. Some personnel have made their way into Wales and are serving with Welsh Govt forces

        3 Worcestershire and Sherwood Foresters - split up into numerous small lawful and unlawful groups after 1997 nuclear exchanges. One group of several hundred now forms core of Free City of Leicester defence force

        3 / 4 Yorks - amalgamated into single Bn; intact, loyal to HMG, based Catterick

        4 King's Royal Border - Intact; no longer accepting orders from higher command and serving as local defence force for town of Carlisle.

        2/52nd Lowland - Bn split up into numerous small groups after 1997 nuclear exchanges; some personnel incorporated into Republic of Scotland forces, others serving as core of the Border Reivers maruader group

        5 Royal Anglian - Intact; no longer accepting orders from higher command and serving as local defence force for city og Norwich

        6/7 Queens, 6 LI, 2 Wessex and (most of) 4 D and D - intact, loyal to HMG, based southern England.
        Last edited by Rainbow Six; 02-12-2011, 01:14 PM.
        Author of the unofficial and strictly non canon Alternative Survivor’s Guide to the United Kingdom

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        • #5
          Hey Rainbow PM me when you get a chance.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rainbow Six View Post
            Canada
            C Squadron, 17th / 21st Lancers
            1st Battalion, Cheshire Regiment
            1st Battalion, Royal Hampshire Regiment (Less B Company)
            The British Army Training Unit Suffield as it is call BATUS is is a British Army unit located at the vast training area of Canadian Forces Base Suffield in Alberta, Canada. BATUS is the British Army's largest armoured training facility and it can accommodate live-firing and tactical effect simulation (TES) exercises up to brigade level. BATUS conducts training from May to October each year. This normally consists of 4 to 6 battlegroups (BGs) each exercising for around 24 days each, supported by the BATUS permanent and temporary staff and a dedicated enemy. It fleet consits of 40 Challenger 2 (would only be 1 in TW 2000) tanks, 60 Warrior tracked armoured vehicles, and a similar number of CVR(T) and AFVs, a fleet of wheeled vehicles

            Here's it Sub Units

            HQ BATUS

            Resident OPFOR - rotated every year, this is made up either of an armoured regiment or infantry battalion

            29 Flight, Army Air Corps - The unit uses unarmed Gazelle helicopters for CASVAC and Command and Control

            105 Logistic Support Squadron, Royal Logistic Corps

            BATUS REME Workshop

            Given the nature of this unit and German Army Training Establishment Shilo (GATES), I would think that both Germany and the UK would have there Soliders and Vehicles returned as they will need them given there is a war going on. There is Challenger Article that talks about a German-Anglo Unit based the permis that BATUS and GATES were left fullly entacted back in Canada

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFB_Shilo Info on GATES

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British..._Unit_Suffield Info on BATUS
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            • #7
              Originally posted by rcaf_777 View Post
              Given the nature of this unit and German Army Training Establishment Shilo (GATES), I would think that both Germany and the UK would have there Soliders and Vehicles returned as they will need them given there is a war going on. There is Challenger Article that talks about a German-Anglo Unit based the permis that BATUS and GATES were left fullly entacted back in Canada
              I agree with the suggestion that it would seem likely that UK and German units would be brought back from Canada quite quickly once the shooting starts.

              That said, in an attempt to offer a rational reason why they do stay in Canada (per the Challenge article) I suppose one could argue that it might be down to shipping shortages. I'm also partial to the idea that the Anglo German forces in Canada were earmarked to provide a NATO contribution to US forces in Korea and were scheduled to go from Canada straight to Korea until the 1997 nuclear exchanges put paid to that plan.

              In my T2K World I've opted to follow the canon established in Challenge and leave the Anglo German Brigade in Canada. It does, I suppose, give an interesting option for playing a slightly out of the ordinary PC in a North American campaign.
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              • #8
                One set of units missing from the above lists is the University Air Squadrons- IIRC until the early 90s defence cuts there were 16 of them, with anything from 4 to 10 aircraft each.
                The aircraft was the Scottish Aviation Bulldog; as I have mentioned in another thread, there were some exercises carried out using the 'Dog as a low-cost, longish endurance recon and communications aircraft. It could also land in a 100 metre strip (I've seen it done!) so it could conceivably be used for agent insertion/retrieval if no helos were available.
                The instructors were all serving RAF pilots; maintainance was carried out by civilian contractors. Bases could either be RAF stations, or at civilian airports.
                The UASs were really training units, aiming to present the RAF with graduates a little better prepared for pilot training; however, at times before and since (and on an opportunity basis when I was a member in the 1980s) more overtly military training was added in.
                My personal collection was about 100 hours flying (including low-level flying, aerobatics, navigation and some instrument flying); qualifying to basic service standard with the SLR; NBC training including sessions in CS gas chambers; a cross-country skiing and arctic survival course in Norway; and mooning a Soviet spy trawler somewhere in the North Atlantic from the side dome window of a Nimrod!
                I'm not sure how any of this would translate into game stats or skills, but if you wanted a PC a bit different from the average infantryman or tanker, how about a drafted student, possibly only 19 or so, who has limited military skills, high stats, low rads, and knows where he crashed his Bulldog, when no other aircraft was available
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sanjuro View Post
                  mooning a Soviet spy trawler somewhere in the North Atlantic from the side dome window of a Nimrod!
                  Way to do your bit for God, King, and Country.

                  Any way, here is a list of University Royal Naval Units (URNU) and University Air Squadrons.

                  University Royal Naval Units
                  Each URNU has up to four training officers (members of the Royal Naval Reserve) and a dedicated training vessel (an Archer-class P2000 fast patrol boat), but for Twilight 2000 I have them with a mixture of Loyal class and Attacker class Ships.URNU ships are part of the Inshore Training Squadron; with the commander of the Inshore Training Squadronis also Commander URNU.
                  Aberdeen University Royal Naval Unit - HMS Chaser (P282); Attacker class
                  Birmingham University Royal Naval Unit - HMS Loyal Helper (P157); Loyal class
                  Bristol University Royal Naval Unit - HMS Safeguard (P286); Attacker class
                  Cambridge University Royal Naval Unit - HMS Loyal Watcher (P159); Loyal class
                  Glasgow University Royal Naval Unit - HMS Attacker (P281); Attacker class
                  Liverpool University Royal Naval Unit - HMS Striker (P285); Attacker class
                  London University Royal Naval Unit - HMS Hunter (P284); Attacker class
                  Manchester & Salford University Royal Naval Unit - HMS Loyal Mediator (A161); Loyal class
                  Northumbrian University Royal Naval Unit - HMS Loyal Factor (P382); Loyal class
                  Oxford University Royal Naval Unit - HMS Loyal Chancellor (P177); Loyal class
                  Southampton University Royal Naval Unit - HMS Fencer (P283); Attacker class
                  Sussex University Royal Naval Unit - HMS Swift (P287); Attacker class
                  Wales University Royal Naval Unit - HMS Loyal Moderator (P220); Loyal class
                  Yorkshire University Royal Naval Unit - HMS Loyal Proctor (P1771); Loyal class

                  University Air Squadrons

                  Aberdeen University Air Squadron
                  Aberystwyth University Air Squadron
                  Aberdeen, Dundee and St. Andrews University Air Squadron
                  Belfast University Air Squadron
                  Birmingham University Air Squadron
                  Bristol University Air Squadron
                  Cambridge University Air Squadron
                  Cardiff University Air Squadron
                  Derby University Air Squadron
                  Durham University Air Squadron
                  East Lowlands University Air Squadron
                  East Midlands University Air Squadron
                  East of Scotland Universities Air Squadron
                  Edinburgh University Air Squadron
                  Exeter University Air Squadron
                  Glasgow University Air Squadron
                  Hull University Air Squadron
                  Leeds University Air Squadron
                  Liverpool University Air Squadron
                  London University Air Squadron
                  Manchester and Salford Universities Air Squadron
                  Manchester University Air Squadron
                  Northumbrian Universities Air Squadron
                  Nottingham University Air Squadron
                  Oxford University Air Squadron
                  Perth University Air Squadron
                  Queen's University Air Squadron
                  St. Andrews University Air Squadron
                  St. Andrews and Dundee Universities Air Squadron
                  Southampton University Air Squadron
                  Swansea University Air Squadron
                  Universities of Glasgow and Strathclyde Air Squadron
                  University of Birmingham Air Squadron
                  University of Liverpool Air Squadron
                  University of London Air Squadron
                  University of Wales Air Squadron
                  Wales University Air Squadron
                  Wolverhampton University Air Squadron
                  Yatesbury University Air Squadron
                  Yorkshire Universities Air Squadron
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                  • #10
                    Way to do your bit for God, King, and Country.
                    Duty above all!
                    A few too many UASs there; Glasgow UAS became UGSAS after Strathclyde University was formed; Aberdeen students went to Aberdeen, Dundee and St. Andrews UAS; Northern Ireland's only UAS was Queens' UAS, Perth didn't actually have a university! I'll try and find some of my old records to name all 16 UASs from the 80s.
                    However, that's just me being overly picky- the increase in the number of UK universities in the 1990s could, in a period of increasing tensions, have had a corresponding increase in UAS numbers, to increase the throughflow of students into RAF flying training. Conceivably, the remaining DH Chipmunks then being used by the Air Experience Flights could have been returned to the UASs.
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