US Police Armored Vehicles

[pmulcahy11b]

I was just doing some research on the LAV-300 and found out that the Wichita Sheriffs Department has a LAV-300. It seems to be controversial.

http://www.timesrecordnews.com/news/2010/jul/18/the-lav-300-its-the-sheriffs-new-urban-tank/

I apologize -- I just checked that link to read it again and remind myself what I was talking about at the time, and it's been pulled.

[Olefin]

Saw a Bearcat while out for my walk today at lunch (pizza place nearby that cops frequent) and that lead me to this thread

There are actually a lot of armored military vehicles in the hands of police - the question is what time frame are you looking at

Saw this article online - http://www.the109.org/2015/12/28/spe...-and-to-serve/

Gave some details on equipment that police organizations had received since 2006 from the US military - including 432 MRAP's and 400 plus other armored and military vehicles -

gives an example of a county in Texas

Since 2006, Tarrant County has a combined total of over 72 assault rifles, 29 night vision pieces, two mine resistant ambush protection vehicles (MRAPs), and one other armored vehicle, according to the Department of Defense.

and then gives this nice figure about how many vehicles have been given to law enforcement since 1990

5,512 armored and mine resistant vehicles

as for whether a municipality might have the equivalent in armored vehicles to put together an armored company lets look at LA

Now keep in mind this is more for Twilight 2013 and not the classic game

Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department Special Enforcement Bureau --6 (One B.E.A.R, three BearCats, two Parademic or MedCats)

Los Angeles Police Department S.W.A.T --4 (One B.E.A.R, two BearCats and one MedCat variant)

Meaning you have ten armored cars right there before you even get into anything else they may have

[rcaf_777]

Anybody have any handle on what US Police forces or agencies are using what armored vehicles Or weird things like the Florida Forestry Service, which has a demilled AH-1G for use in fire spotting

They use them in California too, here is a few more old warbrids that found new homes with police department

In 1989 I did the Kennedy Space Centre tour whilst on holiday in Orlando and saw what looked very much like two M113's. iirc they were painted white and had the NASA logo on them.

Yes NASA dose have M113 here is a photo of one (Rescue Vehicle #1)

[swaghauler]

Check out both LENCO and TEXAS ARMORING'S websites for "reconditioned" armored vehicles as well. Many of these are police "turn ins" once the powertrain has so many hours on it.

[unkated]

Ok, let's say that the crips and bloods go nuclear on each other, and break out the really heavy stuff. How do you think the gov and local law enforcement would react

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[Olefin]

the worry over the Crips and Bloods having anti-tank or anti-air weaponry is very real by the way

during the riots in LA in the 90's (I was living there then) the news media was reporting that the military was preparing to possibly be engaged by gang bangers who were armed with LAW rockets - which were reported as being in small numbers in the hands of the Crips and Bloods

and considering that empty rocket launcher tubes have been turned in to the police in Los Angeles during gun buy backs on at least two occasions it is very likely they did and may still have those types of weapons

[rcaf_777]

the worry over the Crips and Bloods having anti-tank or anti-air weaponry is very real by the way

during the riots in LA in the 90's (I was living there then) the news media was reporting that the military was preparing to possibly be engaged by gang bangers who were armed with LAW rockets - which were reported as being in small numbers in the hands of the Crips and Bloods

and considering that empty rocket launcher tubes have been turned in to the police in Los Angeles during gun buy backs on at least two occasions it is very likely they did and may still have those types of weapons

Empty rocket launcher tubes turn up all the time, a lot of army surplus stores sell them. The ones the LAPD found were clearly army training devices. Why else would why they be marked trainer TSA also found an empty tube in someone checked suitcase. Another one was found in New Jersey on some guys lawn lol, they not a danger once they have been fired.

Let me know when they find a real one fully loaded or an there is a explosion caused by one.

[Rockwolf66]

Empty rocket launcher tubes turn up all the time, a lot of army surplus stores sell them. The ones the LAPD found were clearly army training devices. Why else would why they be marked trainer TSA also found an empty tube in someone checked suitcase. Another one was found in New Jersey on some guys lawn lol, they not a danger once they have been fired.

Let me know when they find a real one fully loaded or an there is a explosion caused by one.

So how about an Undercover BATFE Agent posing with a MANPADS Yes some gangs do have ordinance and thankfully they don't usually use such things. Then again in 1995 the Banditos fired two AT-4 rockets into a Hells Angel's clubhouse.

[rcaf_777]

So how about an Undercover BATFE Agent posing with a MANPADS Yes some gangs do have ordinance and thankfully they don't usually use such things. Then again in 1995 the Banditos fired two AT-4 rockets into a Hells Angel's clubhouse.

Neither one of these support your theory of US gangs have rocket launchers

The 1995 incident with the Banditos and Hell Angels happen in Sweden, not the US. the Anti-tank weapons were stolen from one of many weapons caches the army had placed in the country side to provide quick reaction to a Soviet Invasion during the cold war.

The picture you show is of former BATF Agent Jay Dobyns, it is displayed on his website, with the caption under cover with stinger in China Lake California 1990. Did he buy it from someone or was he using it as part of sting operation The whole thing looks odd and it hard to make a lot of details or the colour which would let us know if it is a real weapon system and not a trainer.

[TitusPullo]

Empty rocket launcher tubes turn up all the time, a lot of army surplus stores sell them. The ones the LAPD found were clearly army training devices. Why else would why they be marked trainer TSA also found an empty tube in someone checked suitcase. Another one was found in New Jersey on some guys lawn lol, they not a danger once they have been fired.

Let me know when they find a real one fully loaded or an there is a explosion caused by one.

Having been in the 7th ID at the time of the riots. We were deployed to LA on that Saturday, I remember because we were on DRF1 and only aloud to travel 20 miles off the planet. Me and some of my buddies were getting ready to go out that night and party, but CQ had other plans. He had his runner come up and started yelling "Blue Bayonet!" So we were of course pissed and found out real quick we were heading to LA.

As I was in the divisional LRSD. We were part of the 1st troops in LA. Me and my platoon showed up on the tarmac wearing our war paint and had our cabbage patch tops on. We didnt get the memo stating no camo or helmets. Our 1st Sgt chewed us out. We got bullshit riot helmets when we got to LAX, but quickly put them in our rucks.

We were trucked over to a place called Huntigan park in LA, I thought it was a park not a freaking city, from there we were dispersed out into South Central. I loved it. We were hearing the rumors about anti tank and AA weapons but it was all talk.

I was a 203 gunner and the only 40 MM I was issued were star cluster, to be used in case our comms went down and we were in contact. Our SAW gunners were given only magazines, but our armorer, who was with us, hooked our gunners up with 6 drums each, just in case. LOL Then to really piss us off we got 3 or 4 CA NG assigned to us and not one of them had firing pins for there m16's, and had only two mags apiece. WTF, over. So our Armorer hooked them up with pins and spare mags.

We guarded a power substation for the duration, 7 days. The citizens welcomed us and even kept us supplied with coffee and donuts. Not one business was touched while we were guarding them.

As soon as we had our perimeter set up and established comms with Batt. we applied our war paint and boonies. The citizens and cops loved it but the shitbird gangbangers actually complained to the NG command, they laughed at em so we kept it on. The shitbirds were constantly probing us but we always had overwatch up and were constantly on 50% security the whole time. We always let them know they were number one when the came around 4 deep in the Impalas. Our ROE were not to have a mag in the weapon unless we had a deliberate act of aggression toward us or citizens. Yeah right. I asked our 1st SGT if we get into a firefight do we get a star on our CIBs. I was doing push up for an hour. But it was worth it It was my funnest deployment.

[ArmySGT.]

[.45cultist]

I know several police agency had retired Peacekeepers and mixture of other Cadillac Cage armor cars out there.

KCPD has a Peacekeeper, Missouri Highway Patrol uses V100's or
V150's.

[Olefin]

http://www.hstoday.us/briefings/daily-news-analysis/single-article/anti-tank-rocket-launcher-c-4-found-along-rio-grande-underscores-concerns-over-cartel-attack-threats/340aeedc6028cd8ba95bf21cd9643688.html

From 9/20/2011

Last month, US Border Patrol agents found a dangerous cache of military weapons along the Rio Grande while patrolling the river near Fronton, Texas not far south of the Falcon Lake dam that the Los Zetas Cartel had earlier plotted to blow up, intelligence had indicated.

The cache also was found in an area intelligence more recently indicated the Gulf Cartel had ordered its cross-border smugglers to engage Border Patrol and any other US border region law enforcement officers who get in the way of narco-smuggling operations.

Similarly, several years ago an FBI San Antonio Field Office intelligence advisory strongly warned that the Sinaloa Cartel also had ordered its street enforcers to engage US law enforcement officers to protect cartel smuggling operations across the border into the United States.

Inside the black bag Border Patrol agents found south of Falcon Lake partially hidden by brush was a Light Anti-tank Weapon (LAW) oeloaded with a rocket projectile, according to a source familiar with the seized weapons, a grenade launcher, oeTNT cylinder bombs, six automatic assault rifles and numerous extended capacity magazines, oestandard M-4 hand guards for the M16/AR15 assault rifle and a 2.5 pound C-4 oecharge demolition block in its US military olive drab Mylar wrapping.

So the answer is yes there could be gangs armed with anti-tank weapons - the question is how many other LAW's actually got into cartel gangs hands and their surrogates here in the US

[.45cultist]

Neither one of these support your theory of US gangs have rocket launchers

The 1995 incident with the Banditos and Hell Angels happen in Sweden, not the US. the Anti-tank weapons were stolen from one of many weapons caches the army had placed in the country side to provide quick reaction to a Soviet Invasion during the cold war.

The picture you show is of former BATF Agent Jay Dobyns, it is displayed on his website, with the caption under cover with stinger in China Lake California 1990. Did he buy it from someone or was he using it as part of sting operation The whole thing looks odd and it hard to make a lot of details or the colour which would let us know if it is a real weapon system and not a trainer.

It has the "soup can" inserted, don't those have a limited active life Maybe he was getting instruction on the fun stuff.

[Rockwolf66]

http://www.hstoday.us/briefings/dail...cd9643688.html

From 9/20/2011

Last month, US Border Patrol agents found a dangerous cache of military weapons along the Rio Grande while patrolling the river near Fronton, Texas not far south of the Falcon Lake dam that the Los Zetas Cartel had earlier plotted to blow up, intelligence had indicated.

The cache also was found in an area intelligence more recently indicated the Gulf Cartel had ordered its cross-border smugglers to engage Border Patrol and any other US border region law enforcement officers who get in the way of narco-smuggling operations.

Similarly, several years ago an FBI San Antonio Field Office intelligence advisory strongly warned that the Sinaloa Cartel also had ordered its street enforcers to engage US law enforcement officers to protect cartel smuggling operations across the border into the United States.

Inside the black bag Border Patrol agents found south of Falcon Lake partially hidden by brush was a Light Anti-tank Weapon (LAW) oeloaded with a rocket projectile, according to a source familiar with the seized weapons, a grenade launcher, oeTNT cylinder bombs, six automatic assault rifles and numerous extended capacity magazines, oestandard M-4 hand guards for the M16/AR15 assault rifle and a 2.5 pound C-4 oecharge demolition block in its US military olive drab Mylar wrapping.

So the answer is yes there could be gangs armed with anti-tank weapons - the question is how many other LAW's actually got into cartel gangs hands and their surrogates here in the US

More than anyone in law enforcement wants. Through various sources it's estimated that The Hell's Angels have had a couple of dozen rocket launchers in their armory. Other gangs have been caught with rocket launchers. Most have been fired off LAW or AT-4 styled launchers. A few have been live either reloaded in an improvised manner or a stolen live launcher.