Did I imagine seeing this in the T2k 1e boxed set

[raketenjagdpanzer]

or supplements Basically something about a unit of two Abrams sans ammo holed up near the Kalisz combat zone, waiting to try to dash out

[Slappy]

Not in my memory and nearly certain it wasn't in the 1E Set, but could be in one of the supplements.

[raketenjagdpanzer]

Not in my memory and nearly certain it wasn't in the 1E Set, but could be in one of the supplements.

Yeah, I didn't think it was.

[Legbreaker]

It's not in any of the GDW stuff although could be in a Challenge mag....
May also be somebody's personal work.

[raketenjagdpanzer]

The only indication of them I could find is in notes of mine from an abortive attempt at a campaign nearly 10 years ago so I can only surmise it's something I thought up.

[Slappy]

It's a good kernel for a set of adventures. I like the ideas both of having to find fuel to gas up the Abrams and then take them somewhere to find ammo to make them actually useful. Could easily lead to a couple of nice missions.

Alternatively, the tankers could require infantry support to travel as they are worried about being capped by AT they have no way to counter. Players need to make their way to the location (with or without a couple of stopgap HEAT rounds) and then run point as the M-1s make their way back to friendly "lines".

[raketenjagdpanzer]

It's a good kernel for a set of adventures. I like the ideas both of having to find fuel to gas up the Abrams and then take them somewhere to find ammo to make them actually useful. Could easily lead to a couple of nice missions.

Alternatively, the tankers could require infantry support to travel as they are worried about being capped by AT they have no way to counter. Players need to make their way to the location (with or without a couple of stopgap HEAT rounds) and then run point as the M-1s make their way back to friendly "lines".

Yeah I dug through my notes and it seems the group had found out about the tanks. They were crewed, with a small (10-man) infantry team, dug in waiting to try and dash out during bad weather, and the was going to try to scavenge some main gun rounds and link up with them.

I think it is a good adventure seed worth revisiting.

[Slappy]

I'd play it.

[HorseSoldier]

I like tossing M1s into the mix in Kalisz scenarios, since they're such a two edged sword for PCs. On the one hand, it's tremendous firepower (assuming ammo) where they can shoot their way out of a lot of tight spots. On the other hand, the things are so fuel intensive that they're mobility albatrosses around PCs' necks unless you just gift wrap a huge supply of fuel for them (and where's the fun in that).

[raketenjagdpanzer]

I like how this is developing.

OK, so the heavy shit goes down, and the M1s are riding shotgun across country on their own supply convoy (a few humvees, maybe a deuce-and-a-half and the fuel still/truck). All of the sudden - BOOM goes the truck with the fuel still! The M1s swing into action and engage a platoon of T90s, covering the infantry and light vehicles as they scramble out of the battlezone.

The 90's are working without an infantry screen, so it's pure cannon-work for the M1s. Battle rages for a good clip with the M1s popping up from enfilade and taking out a T90 here and a T90 there until all is said and done. Afterward, the M1s set up a defensive position in a wooded area and the ranking officer, one of the Abrams' TCs, orders the wounded and bulk of the infantry to try and get back to friendly lines as expediently as possible. The Abrams' position overlooks the recent battlezone, and as they have plenty of 50-cal and 7.62 ammo they can hose any light-skinned, foot or horse infantry that comes through.

Once the PCs consolidate whatever/however, word reaches them of the two stranded M1s. Of course they're not the only ones to know, and the race is on...

[atiff]

OK, so the heavy shit goes down, and the M1s are riding shotgun across country on their own supply convoy (a few humvees, maybe a deuce-and-a-half and the fuel still/truck). All of the sudden - BOOM goes the truck with the fuel still! The M1s swing into action and engage a platoon of T90s, covering the infantry and light vehicles as they scramble out of the battlezone.

Why would the truck go boom Why would the T90s not target the M1s first

[Legbreaker]

A "miss", or perhaps could caught in the blast radius of a HEAT round.

[raketenjagdpanzer]

Why would the truck go boom Why would the T90s not target the M1s first

Maybe they hit a mine before the Sovs opened up - who can say This is all prologue you see.

[dragoon500ly]

You could also explain the fuel truck getting hit first as one of the T-90s firing an ATGM...and the gunner missing the targeted M-1 due to lack of practice within the last 6 months. There are any number of ways to explain the fuel truck, its really the GM's option...

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Yeah there's any number of ways you could explain it, perhaps the Soviets deliberately hit the fuel truck first because it's a higher priority target and the OC of the Soviets got a little too excited about nailing that target, trusting the T-90s to take care of any protection it had.
Maybe all the US vehicles were meant to be hit simultaneously but slow reactions on the part of the T-90 crews aiming at the M1s meant that the softskins got hit but the armour got near misses.
With the scenario above, maybe the M1s did get hit but the rounds were unable to penetrate.
It could be that the ambush site wasn't particularly good and the Soviets couldn't get a clear line of sight to the tanks but could easily see the softskins.
Perhaps the Soviets had an infantry unit to initiate the ambush and they hit the fuel truck because they only had an RPG-7 and didn't think they could kill the M1 with it.
Maybe the fuel truck simply ended up being where a T-90 gunner expected one of the M1s to be.