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    Nuclear demolition charges bringing down the twin towers....

    Seriously Is this idiot for real

    What other STUPID, but relatively obscure things have we heard over the decades And no, I don't want the obvious ones such as the moon landing, Kennedy assassination, etc.
    Last edited by Legbreaker; 07-27-2011, 12:15 AM.
    If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

    Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

    Mors ante pudorem

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    My first brush with the real hardcore "what THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW" type stuff was when alt.conspiracy was added as a newsgroup to my local dial-in ISP.

    I read about how the Soviets had planted nuclear torpedos in the locks and flood control gates of various rivers and reservoirs. Another good one was that the Challenger astronauts were alive and well after they hit the water and survived well after the impact, NASA just didn't go get them because they were too busy destroying evidence of fault after the booster rocket disaster. I heard all this back in 1990 or so...

    What else...

    oh, another fun one I heard not that long ago was that the first Atom Bomb did not, in fact, work, and it was a work of precision demolition combined with a single massive bomb going off over the city. Basically that somehow the US managed to replicate the Texas City explosion by sneaking barges of ANFO up the various estuaries into place at both Hiroshima and Nagasaki - it was only well after the war that we got a "working formula" (yeah, insane).

    As the son of a Freemason and a deMolay member the number of conspiracy theories about guys who can't agree on what house rules to use in a game of Rook or Pinochle are endless.
    THIS IS MY SIG, HERE IT IS.

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    • #3
      I remember watching a documentary that put forward the theory that an American sub sank the Kurks with a torpedo by mistake and both sides initiated a cover-up to prevent WW3 (russia let the submariners die so no survivors could testify apparently).
      Better to reign in hell, than to serve in heaven.

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      • #4
        Let's not forget one of the most pervasive conspiracy theories of the late 20th century!!

        Roswell, NN!!

        Little green guys and all......

        My $0.02

        Mike

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 95th Rifleman View Post
          I remember watching a documentary that put forward the theory that an American sub sank the Kurks with a torpedo by mistake and both sides initiated a cover-up to prevent WW3 (russia let the submariners die so no survivors could testify apparently).
          That ties in nicely with the story that we sank K-129 and the Soviets later sank USS Scorpion in retaliation.

          K-129 has a great conspiracy theory of her own, too, which Red Star Rogue addresses in full and wacky detail.

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          • #6
            So you haven't heard the one from David Icke that the British royal family are actually flesh-eating lizard aliens from Alpha Draconis and they are here to help their lizard comrades re-establish the slave base they had on Earth millennia ago
            Apparently humans were bred as slaves for them and movies like ET The Extra Terrestrial and Jurassic Park were specifically made to ease us all into accepting our lizard overlords when they return.
            He claims they found the skull of one of the lizard overlords in the Antartic and even had a picture... well, the picture was of the hole in the ice that it had "apparently" been found in (convincingly lizard skull shaped and without a single manmade object next to it to compare the size & depth)
            Various nations are conspiring to cover all this up and prepare us for out 'true' masters.

            Or how about the one that claimed Russian police had to use a flamethrower to clean out some "thing" that was draining all the blood from people who rode a certain elevator in a conveniently un-named Russian apartment block The Russian police officer in charge took a police sergeant with him to investigate and they rode the elevator only to hear strange noises above them, then the power went out and the sergeant shone his flashlight up and collapsed with fright due to his phobia of spiders.
            Allegedly a massively gigantic spider was living in the elevator shaft and killing anyone who rode that elevator. The police officer escaped and supposedly had a flamethrower brought in from the army to 'cleanse' the elevator shaft.
            Allegedly, the Russian police, the apartment owners and the government conspired to hide all this from the public so that the real estate prices for apartments wouldn't drop.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by StainlessSteelCynic View Post
              Or how about the one that claimed Russian police had to use a flamethrower to clean out some "thing" that was draining all the blood from people who rode a certain elevator in a conveniently un-named Russian apartment block The Russian police officer in charge took a police sergeant with him to investigate and they rode the elevator only to hear strange noises above them, then the power went out and the sergeant shone his flashlight up and collapsed with fright due to his phobia of spiders.
              Allegedly a massively gigantic spider was living in the elevator shaft and killing anyone who rode that elevator. The police officer escaped and supposedly had a flamethrower brought in from the army to 'cleanse' the elevator shaft.
              Allegedly, the Russian police, the apartment owners and the government conspired to hide all this from the public so that the real estate prices for apartments wouldn't drop.
              You know.. this reminds me of one of those horror shows of the late-1980s/early-1990s. Two young men are going to an old aparemtent building that they had inherited and while riding the elevator a giant spider eats them...
              Fuck being a hero. Do you know what you get for being a hero? Nothing! You get shot at. You get a little pat on the back, blah blah blah, attaboy! You get divorced... Your wife can't remember your last name, your kids don't want to talk to you... You get to eat a lot of meals by yourself. Trust me kid, nobody wants to be that guy. I do this because there is nobody else to do it right now. Believe me if there was somebody else to do it, I would let them do it. There's not, so I'm doing it.

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              • #8
                Heck, I'm living in a country rich with conspiracy theories. "A baby ate my dingo!", anyone
                sigpic "It is better to be feared than loved" - Nicolo Machiavelli

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                • #9
                  Yeah; I've heard the K129 was on its way to nuke Hawaii (sometimes the theory is that they were trying to trigger a war between the US and China) and got sunk so we "gave up" the Scorpion.

                  My favorite Kursk conspiracy theory is that an LA class rammed her, sank her, and snuck off. Of course this all ignores the fact that an LA class is, compared to a double-hulled boomer like the Kursk, as thin and flimsy as a beercan and would itself have been destroyed in the process (point this out to the Russian conspiracy theorists and they usually come back with "US captain knew just right where to hit big Kursk to do most damage" or "Little tap yes but disturbed SKVALL torpedo launch to cause big explosion").
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Targan View Post
                    Heck, I'm living in a country rich with conspiracy theories. "A baby ate my dingo!", anyone
                    That was just mean. Poor Meryl Streep.
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                    • #11
                      Here's one for the Southwest US: just Google "Chupacabra."
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Legbreaker View Post
                        Nuclear demolition charges bringing down the twin towers....

                        Seriously Is this idiot for real
                        Even better. I heard about him while reading an article about something else entirely. If it's the same guy, he's been taken seriously by some journalists for a paper on the coming shortage of lithium. Lithium is terribly useful in making batteries for cars and cellphones and laptops, and there's a lot of it in South America. Its also really easy to process, and using it in batteries doesn't consume it, like oil, so there really can't be a shortage.
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                        • #13
                          In the UK we have a paper called the Daily mail.

                          It's about the great Polish, Islamic conspiracy to dominate the world in concert with the Homosexuals who peddle their plot via the liberals who intend to destroy civilisation as we know it (they also killed Diana).
                          Better to reign in hell, than to serve in heaven.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pmulcahy11b View Post
                            Here's one for the Southwest US: just Google "Chupacabra."
                            Hey that's not conspiracy.. that's a monster in the dark just waiting to get your ass.. LOL

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                            • #15
                              Dick Cheney was an Illuminati master and Bush was his puppet

                              Don't forget that the earth really is flat and you've been lied to all these years.

                              And last but not least, nobody ever really landed on the moon. Its been a giant NASA conspiracy...
                              The reason that the American Army does so well in wartime, is that war is chaos, and the American Army practices chaos on a daily basis.

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