OT- Evolution

[pmulcahy11b]

Evolution is just a theory. Speculation and hypothesis based upon assumptions, and some known facts (that are occasionally updated when new info is discovered). We have not been around long enough to really notice any major evolution.

If man descended from apes why are apes still around Do things evolve

By those standards, everything is a just a theory -- including whether your or I even exist.

We notice evolution every time we have to develop a new flu vaccine or a drug-resistant strain of a disease pops up -- the viruses and bacteria have evolved to adapt to existing methods to wipe them out.

Man didn't descend from apes, both evolved from a common ancestor that existed long before. The evolutionary branches "split" long before there were either apes or men; their branches never "crossed" in the first place.

Just trying to clarifying a few things. Evolution doesn't work the way most people think -- species don't really "descend" from one another, they just change to adapt to the prevailing biological and climatological conditions at the time. No, that's not really right either -- species don't deliberately change to adapt, they acquire a set of random mutations that allow them, step by step, to better fit into their niche.

And, as any good scientist will admit, any current theory is subject to change or even be thrown out completely at any time -- such is the nature of learning and science.

[Matt W]

Evolution is only a problem if you're American. No other nation requires conservative politicians to deny the "theory" of evolution. Even the Vatican is OK with the "theory" of evolution - just like they cope with the "theory" of gravity

[pmulcahy11b]

I want a taco...

[ArmySGT.]

If you never had it before......... Tastes like chicken.

[pmulcahy11b]

If you never had it before......... Tastes like chicken.

Which one The Taco, or the Theory of Evolution

[ArmySGT.]

Which one The Taco, or the Theory of Evolution

Theory of Evolution. No one knows what the meat in the taco is.

[mikeo80]

Time, Gentlemen, Please!

I am requesting a cease fire.

Each person's belief is exactly that. That belief belongs to that person.

I have my own series of beliefs. They belong to me. Right or wrong as others may interpret them, they are mine. I am not going to get into my beliefs, because that would be adding fuel to the fire that is this thread.

So, please, no more. Let's get back to T2K. That is a universe we all have agreed to inhabit in one way or another.

My $0.02

Mike

[Targan]

We notice evolution every time we have to develop a new flu vaccine or a drug-resistant strain of a disease pops up -- the viruses and bacteria have evolved to adapt to existing methods to wipe them out.

Man didn't descend from apes, both evolved from a common ancestor that existed long before. The evolutionary branches "split" long before there were either apes or men; their branches never "crossed" in the first place.

Just trying to clarifying a few things. Evolution doesn't work the way most people think -- species don't really "descend" from one another, they just change to adapt to the prevailing biological and climatological conditions at the time. No, that's not really right either -- species don't deliberately change to adapt, they acquire a set of random mutations that allow them, step by step, to better fit into their niche.

Yes, yes and yes. Good descriptions there, Paul.

We can travel to the Galapagos Islands today and see the same things that Charles Darwin saw. He practised science in a modern, empirical way. He observed something for which there was no scientific explanation and developed a theory to explain it.

We humans use some of the mechanisms of evolution to modify animals and plants to our own ends. It's called selective breeding. All of our modern food crops, nearly all of our domestic animals, have been heavily modified through animal and plant husbandry to display characteristics we find useful.

Broadly speaking, that's how evolution works too. Living creatures with random mutations that prove useful tend to do better in their environment than their 'pure-strain' relatives. Their descendants carry those useful mutations and over time that strain diverges from its relatives. There's nothing mystical about it.

As for the Big Bang, that theory doesn't necessarily call for you to believe that 'something came from nothing'. We can't observe what came before the Big Bang, sure, but there are many possibilities. Universes may only expand to a certain point before contracting back down to a singularity and starting the process all over again. Ancient universes may eventually collapse into themselves as all matter is eventually eaten by black holes. I'm much more comfortable with those theories than the idea than some omnsicient, omnipotent being that I can't detect at all created the universe in 7 days.

[Legbreaker]

Evolution is just a theory. Speculation and hypothesis based upon assumptions, and some known facts (that are occasionally updated when new info is discovered). We have not been around long enough to really notice any major evolution.

LMAO
Oh, wait, you're serious!

There are litterally masses of evidence supporting evolution, so much that it's impossible to list even a small part of it all (although fossils, genetic diversification, etc are a couple).
Where's even the faintest scrap of evidence backing up creationism It simply does not exist outside of the heads of those who want to believe in it. Sure, you can say those fossils were created by a higher power, but how can you PROVE that At least those same fossils can be dated using scientific processes.

Evolution is happening daily. It can be seen at work in some of the short lifespan creatures such as insects - a dozen generations over just a few months and you go from a species unable to cope with a particular pesticide to one that virtually bathes in it every morning without harm. The same thing can be seen in longer lived creatures and plants if you spend the time and effort observing.

[Cpl. Kalkwarf]

LMAO
Oh, wait, you're serious!

There are litterally masses of evidence supporting evolution, so much that it's impossible to list even a small part of it all (although fossils, genetic diversification, etc are a couple).
Where's even the faintest scrap of evidence backing up creationism It simply does not exist outside of the heads of those who want to believe in it. Sure, you can say those fossils were created by a higher power, but how can you PROVE that At least those same fossils can be dated using scientific processes.

Evolution is happening daily. It can be seen at work in some of the short lifespan creatures such as insects - a dozen generations over just a few months and you go from a species unable to cope with a particular pesticide to one that virtually bathes in it every morning without harm. The same thing can be seen in longer lived creatures and plants if you spend the time and effort observing.

No not serious, just stirring the pot.

I question Both allot. Science has almost become a religion. When one questions it those that profess it react almost if not, then just like questioning Creationist and their reaction.

Personally I could care less.

For all we know both are right, the scientists are just trying to explain how it happened in an analytic way. While the Creations are just taking it on faith. :P

[Cpl. Kalkwarf]

Oh and think about this. Is it evolution or intelligent design just updating or changing its mind

Why not

lol

[Panther Al]

Not the truth Don't be so sure...

*spits good German beer over his kb*

This.

Pure win.

[pmulcahy11b]

Oh and think about this. Is it evolution or intelligent design just updating or changing its mind

Why not

lol

Or did MS pump the Matrix an update

You know, this thread started out as a flamewar brewing, but now it's just fun.

[pmulcahy11b]

OMG! I can't believe I just suggested that the Matrix runs on Windows! The universe's gonna crash!

[ArmySGT.]

OMG! I can't believe I just suggested that the Matrix runs on Windows! The universe's gonna crash!

Why do you think you can see the glitches.

Say is that a cat

Say is that a cat

Whoa.... De ja Vu.