Which is why I advocate for the M2 Bradley be made a Univeral Chassis and take over the M113 roles. There is an IFV, AD, Evac, Cargo, SAM, platforms. Begging for a FO/Hell fire model, 120mm Mortar carrier, APC uparmored, and Command Post models.
and why does every list of Bradley models neglect the one brad i've ever ridden in. the M7 Bfist. granted absolutely useless for laser guided munitions and it is the only fire support team vehicle that has that aspect neglected.
(hence why i'll stick to light units)
the best course of action when all is against you is to slow down and think critically about the situation. this way you are not blindly rushing into an ambush and your mind is doing something useful rather than getting you killed.
and why does every list of Bradley models neglect the one brad i've ever ridden in. the M7 Bfist. granted absolutely useless for laser guided munitions and it is the only fire support team vehicle that has that aspect neglected.
(hence why i'll stick to light units)
Thanks for that! I had no idea the BFIST didn't have a designator! Got fix my entry...
I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons...First We Take Manhattan, Jennifer Warnes
Which is why I advocate for the M2 Bradley be made a Univeral Chassis and take over the M113 roles. There is an IFV, AD, Evac, Cargo, SAM, platforms. Begging for a FO/Hell fire model, 120mm Mortar carrier, APC uparmored, and Command Post models.
The Army (or at least TACOM) is about 20 years ahead of you in that thought. Or more; we started hearing about possible Bradley-based under-armor 120mm mortar carriers back in 1987 "that would be reality in about 5 years." Unfortunately, the guys in the Pentagon and the Congress holding the pursestrings had different ideas.
I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons...First We Take Manhattan, Jennifer Warnes
Back to the 'ol M113...I think what's made the sucker so versatile to begin with is the fact that it is, indeed just a basic armored (okay, that's a misnomer, ALUMINUM) box with tracks...
Could be worse -- the BMD-1's hull armor is made of MAGNESIUM alloy! Can you say "roman candle," boys and girls...
I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons...First We Take Manhattan, Jennifer Warnes
It's an absolutely AMAZING movie. Relatively low budget, but very realistic depiction of Australian troops in operation (or just in the boozer).
Best scene EVER has to be the WP grenade at the bridge, but then I am a sadistic bastard sometimes.
I first saw that on HBO when I was in college, in the early-to-mid 1980s. It was a good movie. I thought it was funny when one guy got his pack stolen. Then he found out it was a monkey. Then he found out the monkey was a protected species and he wouldn't be allowed to shoot the thing and get his pack back. You could practically see the steam coming out of his ears...
"Who is the prick who pinched my pack!"
I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons...First We Take Manhattan, Jennifer Warnes
Could be worse -- the BMD-1's hull armor is made of MAGNESIUM alloy! Can you say "roman candle," boys and girls...
Oh, they got even better than that...the BMP's armor is made of magnesium alloy...with the fuel tanks installed in the REAR DOORS!
The term "pot roast" comes to mind for any poor bastards stuck in the things if/when they get lit up...not to mention it looks pretty damn cramped in there to begin with.
"The use of force is always an answer to problems. Whether or not it's a satisfactory answer depends on a number of things, not least the personality of the person making the determination. Force isn't an attractive answer, though. I would not be true to myself or to the people I served with in 1970 if I did not make that realization clear."
— David Drake
Thanks for that! I had no idea the BFIST didn't have a designator! Got fix my entry...
No designator THAT SUCKS. It wouldnt' theoretically be hard to implement though, would it
"The use of force is always an answer to problems. Whether or not it's a satisfactory answer depends on a number of things, not least the personality of the person making the determination. Force isn't an attractive answer, though. I would not be true to myself or to the people I served with in 1970 if I did not make that realization clear."
— David Drake
Hopefully the rear doors will stay out of the line of fire. The Soviet doctrine is what, attack, attack, attack isn't it Seems to fit in that light (and makes the crew VERY cautious about fleeing).
Couldn't a hand held designator be used instead of a mounted one Is that perhaps the (twisted) logic behind not including a mounted one
If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.
Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"
Oh my God...guys, I was looking for info on the M60-2000 (S120 - the Egyptians want 1500 of those mo-fos...how cool is that!) and I found the M1 Abrams equivalent of ol' Sparks the Gavin Fetishist.
Could be worse -- the BMD-1's hull armor is made of MAGNESIUM alloy! Can you say "roman candle," boys and girls...
You got that right. When I was a bastard child of a bastard child (infantry rifle augmentee to MP platoon on ADA missle battery) back ~70, one of the missle jocks told me the vans they had their radar and fire controls in were a magnesium alloy. It was for a purpose too, since one thermite set the whole van up, in theroy at least destroying everything in it. There was also a no flame rule within at least 25 feet IIRC, though that wasn't my balliwack.
At first, not so bad. Some good points made, but a little over the top at times. In fact, it reminded me of ole Sparky himself.
Read further, again, a few good points, even more out there, and then, proof!
In one section he talks about a modified OA10B, loaded with high end electronics and sensors (Which defeats the whole rugged and simple thing, but..) and called it a Super Hog. Which dovetailed well with an Army Vehicle he felt served the same basic role in the Army: The M113 *Super* Gavin.
Yes, *SUPER* Gavin!
Member of the Bofors fan club! The M1911 of automatic cannon.
Oh my God...guys, I was looking for info on the M60-2000 (S120 - the Egyptians want 1500 of those mo-fos...how cool is that!) and I found the M1 Abrams equivalent of ol' Sparks the Gavin Fetishist.
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