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  • #1

    AGS-17 in action

    AGS-17 in Action Video

    Interesting video. The dialog is in Russian. but you get an up close look at an AGS-17 firing.

    I did not know it used a non - disintegrating belt. There bits of video which show the hand cranked belt loading tool.

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    Last edited by ArmySGT.; 11-06-2011, 01:38 PM.
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  • #2
    A sandbag or two on that front leg would be handy...
    If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

    Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

    Mors ante pudorem

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    • #3
      Is this the version they had during the Soviet's adventure in Afghanistan, that sometimes reputedly had a tendency to have grenade rounds get stuck in the barrel Oh, and apparently the grenade fuses were automatically armed when fired, hence....you get the idea.

      Of course, I could be wrong on this, and if the problem did exist, maybe it was fixed...but knowing the Soviet/Russian's safety track record, I think I'll stick with the Mk-19 all the same.
      "The use of force is always an answer to problems. Whether or not it's a satisfactory answer depends on a number of things, not least the personality of the person making the determination. Force isn't an attractive answer, though. I would not be true to myself or to the people I served with in 1970 if I did not make that realization clear."
      — David Drake

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Schone23666 View Post
        Is this the version they had during the Soviet's adventure in Afghanistan, that sometimes reputedly had a tendency to have grenade rounds get stuck in the barrel Oh, and apparently the grenade fuses were automatically armed when fired, hence....you get the idea.

        Of course, I could be wrong on this, and if the problem did exist, maybe it was fixed...but knowing the Soviet/Russian's safety track record, I think I'll stick with the Mk-19 all the same.
        Yeah; the AGS-17 seems to have a lot more recoil than the Mk-19. Of course it boils down to the gunner...
        THIS IS MY SIG, HERE IT IS.

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        • #5
          The mount it's on seems a bit lighter than the Mk-19's as well. That's going to have an impact.
          If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

          Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

          Mors ante pudorem

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Schone23666 View Post
            Is this the version they had during the Soviet's adventure in Afghanistan, that sometimes reputedly had a tendency to have grenade rounds get stuck in the barrel Oh, and apparently the grenade fuses were automatically armed when fired, hence....you get the idea.

            Of course, I could be wrong on this, and if the problem did exist, maybe it was fixed...but knowing the Soviet/Russian's safety track record, I think I'll stick with the Mk-19 all the same.
            I remember reading reports of the AGS-17 during the Soviet-Afghan war and the specific mention that sometimes the launcher would double-feed the rounds causing the second round to detonate. The grenades used at that time didn't automatically arm as such, the grenades were fitted with point detonating impact fuzes. Impact fuzes without an arming cycle, yeah you can see the trouble with that...

            The later fuzes are still point detonating impact but they have a safety feature that keeps the detonator out of alignment with the fire train. Once the round has been spun enough times (at between 10 to 60 metres from the muzzle - that's a hell of a range!) all the components of the fire train are in alignment and the round is thus armed.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by raketenjagdpanzer View Post
              Yeah; the AGS-17 seems to have a lot more recoil than the Mk-19. Of course it boils down to the gunner...
              It is significantly lighter than a MK 19 Mod 3 which use the M3 tripod which is not light weight itself .

              The MK 19 with tripod can be moved by two soldier, but not far or fast.

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              • #8
                Russian 30-mm Automatic Grenade Launcher AGS-17________________________
                Ammunition
                Types
                30-mm grenade
                Frag-HE
                Typical Combat Load (Dismounted) 87

                SYSTEM
                Alternative Designations: Plamya (Flame)
                Date of Introduction: 1974
                Proliferation: At least 12 countries
                Description:
                Crew: 3 (see NOTES)
                Weight (kg):
                Empty (without magazine): 30.71
                Loaded (with magazine): 45.05
                Launcher: 17.86
                Sight: .99
                Tripod: 11.86
                Magazine (loaded): 14.34
                Length (m): 1.28
                Height (m): INA
                Width (m): INA
                Tripod Name: SAG-17
                Mounts: Tripod, vehicle, or helicopter
                Traverse (o): 30 total
                Elevation (o): +7 to +87
                Service Life of Barrel (rds): 6,000
                Barrel Change Time: Quick disconnect
                Rate of Fire (rd/min):
                Practical: 60-100
                Cyclic: 100-400 Adjustable with a thumb safety. May be fired single shot or in short (< 5 rds) or long (6-10 rds) bursts.
                Operation: Blowback
                Feed: Drum magazine containing 29 round belt.
                Fire Mode: Selective, automatic and semi-automatic
                Loader Type: Manual

                SIGHTS
                Name: PAG-17
                Type: Illuminated day optical sight
                Sighting Range (m): 1,700
                Magnification: 2.7x
                Location: Left rear of launcher
                Night Sights Available: Yes

                VARIANTS
                AG-17: Vehicle mounted.
                AG-17A: Helicopter mounted, electric trigger, rate of fire increased to 420-500 rd/min, 300 rd belt.
                TKB-722K AGL: Lighter version and possibly the follow-on to the AGS-17, shoots the same ammunition as the AGS-17

                AMMUNITION
                Name: VOG-17A, VOG-17M (self-destruct)
                Caliber/length: 30x132.8-mm
                Type: Frag-HE
                Range (m)
                Direct Fire Range (m): 700
                Effective (m): 1,200
                Min Range (m): 50
                Max Indirect Range (m): 1,730
                Armor Penetration: Lightly armored vehicles.
                Accuracy @ 400 m:
                Distance: 4.3 m
                Deflection: .2 m
                Casualty Radius (m): 15 (90% at 7 m)
                Complete Round Weight (grams): 350
                Grenade Weight (grams): 280
                Warhead Explosive Weight (grams): 36
                Muzzle Velocity (m/s): 185
                Fuze Type: Impact, activates after 25 spins.
                NOTES
                The AGS-17 provides the infantry with an area suppressive capability. One AGL can create a damage zone 15 meters wide. The fire from an
                AGL platoon covers a sector approximately 90 m across. Although primarily intended for use against personnel, it has a limited capability to
                engage lightly armored vehicles. The crew consists of a gunner and two riflemen-assistant gunners, and may have an additional ammunition
                bearer. For ground transport the AGS-17 breaks down into four parts: launcher, sight, tripod, and magazine. When dismounted the gunner carries
                the sight and launcher, the first assistant carries the tripod and a magazine, and the second assistant carries two additional magazines. It is
                very accurate in the semiautomatic mode and is quite effective in area coverage in the automatic mode. The 50-meter increments in the range
                table atop the receiver indicate accuracy against point targets. The AGS-17 is normally organized in a platoon consisting of 6 launchers, carried
                in pairs in three armored vehicles (they can also be carried in trucks, or by individuals). The AGS-17 is capable of mounting night vision sights.
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