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**copeab** · 03-17-2012, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by natehale1971 View Post

What do you guys think

They let you have a real dungeon crawl in T2K

**natehale1971** · 03-17-2012, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by copeab View Post

They let you have a real dungeon crawl in T2K

LOL

Yeah.. the first eps. i saw tonight was developing a bunker for a family of Preppers (well, his son and duahter were all for it... but hs wife wasn't really ppeased with it... until she saw the bunker that they built underground that almost looked exactly like their aboveground house).

these kinds of shows are really interesting

We had a 'dungeon crawl' type of game in t2k when we went through a freighter that had run aground on a sandbar. that was... interesting.

**Targan** · 03-17-2012, 09:34 PM

Lots of ideas there for Morrow Project too, huh

**natehale1971** · 03-17-2012, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by Targan View Post

Lots of ideas there for Morrow Project too, huh

Definately... the pyramid shape would be perfect for both Boltholes and Supply Caches. The Sheer amout of volume that would be inside the pyramid is amazing. and the way it's built would allow it to safely dispurse the weight of all that earth or even a building that is over it.

I just wish i had the drafting abilities to draw what i'm talking about.

**raketenjagdpanzer** · 03-17-2012, 10:01 PM

The first thing the foundering gamemaster should remember is that you can always fall back on the Dungeon Crawl.

I was asked to run Star Wars d20 at a con. Now, I love Star Wars and I have a passing understanding of how d20 works but I am not a big "Storytelling" GM. So. <s>Dungeon Crawl</s>Pirate-asteroid-base crawl! I wrote a dungeon-crawl for AD&D, switched the "orcs" to B2 Baktoid combat droids, changed the objective to the characters getting a shipment of weapons that a group of rebels fighting the Corporate Sector Authority desperately needed and went with it. Worked really well! Han Solo even made a cameo at the end (for those who know, it was actually the set-up for the beginning of Han Solo At Stars End).

No reason you can't do the same in Twilight:2000. Do one in NYC: rumors abound that not all the gold was taken out in Children of the Night, that a vault of it remains in the subways - but they're all flooded...! Except a local warlord has gotten the drain pumps working again and a section is now cleared out, and filled with his own troops looking for the gold, too.

The Soviets recently set up an avgas depot deep in the ruins of Krakow - one cleared road in and out out, to escape ground attacks and artillery bombardment by NATO troops. They trucked the fuel in from Romania and have slowly gotten enough of a cache together to get a not inconsiderable amount of air mobility going, and rumor has it they're working on clearing a civil runway for use by tac air FWAC. Only way in to blow the fuel supply and buy the stragglers of the 5th Div. more time is...you guessed it: through the tunnels and sewers beneath the city!

...and so on.

The dungeon crawl: Your handy scenario-creating pal!

**Panther Al** · 03-17-2012, 11:42 PM

I've seen a few eps of that show, and while I think some interesting stuff is on there, some of those folks make me think they are a little unhinged...

**Fusilier** · 03-22-2012, 10:11 AM

This one in Canada is privately owned and apparently the largest in the world...

Ark Two Shelter - Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_Two_Shelter

They are typical eotw nuts, but it's pretty impressive for a home made job.

**Trooper** · 03-22-2012, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Fusilier View Post

This one in Canada is privately owned and apparently the largest in the world...

Ark Two Shelter - Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_Two_Shelter

They are typical eotw nuts, but it's pretty impressive for a home made job.

"A civilian-built nuclear bunker, the Ark Two is touted as the largest privately constructed nuclear fallout shelter in the world."

Hah.

Ideapark mall has private blast shelter- 8400 square meters. It can accomodate 7000 people during time of crisis. Shelter is carved in solid rock and is it is equipped with a NBC filtration system.

Kauppalehti yrityshaku

http://www.kauppalehti.fi/5/i/yritykset/yritysuutiset/oid=20110365449

**Fusilier** · 03-22-2012, 11:52 AM

Well then. Maybe they mean non-commercial based

**pmulcahy11b** · 03-22-2012, 11:06 PM

I'd like a house built into a hill or mountainside, or even one covered with materials that have the same properties as building into a hill. But not for the reason you might think -- I'm not a survivalist (what they used to call preppers). I'd like one because the energy savings are potentially enormous --being underground lends natural temperature regulation to the house built underground. You can even use water tanks stored at different depths to provide water of different temperatures, and maybe put some special skylights in (the light inlets are not necessarily above the outlets). Stick some solar panels and home-sized wind turbines on top of the hill, and your payments to the electric company would be almost nil. Add a good cable connection with a fat internet pipe, and you're set.

**Panther Al** · 03-24-2012, 08:06 PM

I do have to admit to laughing at a lot of the folks on that show, as well as the doomsday preppers show - mainly because I think they are taking things a little beyond common sense.

That being said, while I could never go that far, I do have to admit that, should I ever get the ability, I could really see me building a place up in Colorado in the hills that would, in all honesty, be a German Style Castle right out of the late middle ages. With all the modern conveniences mixed with the insanely tough building methods of the medievial period. And a tap into some aquifer water and if possible, some sort of energy supplies be it geothermal or a tap off of a gas field.