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    Seriously though the better idea is to try and keep the opposition well away from the vehicles, or better yet totally unaware you even HAVE vehicles!
    Until it's too late for them of course and you're already driving over the top of their splattered corpses.
    If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

    Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

    Mors ante pudorem

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    • Originally posted by Apache6 View Post
      A single (mentally unstable) guy...
      Hey! I resemble that remark!
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      • Originally posted by pmulcahy11b View Post
        Hey! I resemble that remark!
        Don't we all
        If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

        Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

        Mors ante pudorem

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        • This is why we cannot have nice things in the US Army!

          It took four years for the Army to finally start fielding the much-hyped Joint Light Tactical Vehicles, and it took soldiers less than four days to destroy one

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          • Originally posted by swaghauler View Post
            This is why we cannot have nice things in the US Army!



            https://taskandpurpose.com/army-jltv-rollover-photo
            "alright, I want to take this awesome new vehicle for a drive! "
            "okay, roll for WVD"
            "100"

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            • Originally posted by swaghauler View Post
              This is why we cannot have nice things in the US Army!

              https://taskandpurpose.com/army-jltv-rollover-photo
              It took them four days That's three days more than usual!
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              • this one was on face book from the Ukraine.

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                • Originally posted by cawest View Post
                  this one was on face book from the Ukraine.



                  https://www.facebook.com/defensionem...type=3&theater
                  "I just want the machine gun mounted on the BMP"
                  *Roll: 1*
                  "miraculously you find the whole cannon fits into the bed"

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                  • Originally posted by cawest View Post
                    this one was on face book from the Ukraine.

                    https://www.facebook.com/defensionem...type=3&theater
                    All I can say is...why You can buy real BMP-2s from some countries in Africa or the FSU these days, cheap.
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                    • Like the BMD-2 above in VietNam some gun trucks were simply M113s in the bed of a truck.

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                      • There's a couple of reasons you would do something like that.
                        I believe one of the M113 guntrucks from Vietnam was made because they had a surplus 113 hull (or that the 113 had been damaged in some way but the hull was still intact). So in that situation, it's simply a case of making use of something that was not usable in its normal form.
                        Maybe the BMD has damaged running gear/engine or tracks etc. etc.

                        The second reason would be the portee concept. Using the truck to carry the BMD to save wear and tear on the BMD engine, tracks etc. etc. It also uses less fuel to cart the thing around on the back of a truck.

                        And there's one other idea, maybe it was a tactical choice - the autocannon of the BMD is much higher above ground level than it would normally be. In the back of that truck, it looks as though it's at a good height to fire over walls and gates like you see in the background.

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                        • As I think has already been said the gun trucks of Viet Nam had a different mission to the Middle Eastern technicals and the Donbass 'thingys'.

                          In Viet Nam the firebases needed supplying (72% of the war effort was in the maintenance of the firebases) and the supply columns had a chance of being ambushed at extremely close range. The way the frankly courageous men manning the convoys responded was with overwhelming automatic fire to suppress the enemy, stop the enemy maneuvering and make the convoy the master of its surroundings.

                          The wandering nature of Twilight 2000 soldiers, they are either ensconced in a canton or on the road, means that the Viet Nam model really suits T2k. When surprised they can lay down massive automatic fire and dominate the ambush at the outset. It's hell on the ammo but who wants to die with a full ammo pouch anyway.

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                          • Originally posted by StainlessSteelCynic View Post
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                            Maybe the BMD has damaged running gear/engine or tracks etc. etc.



                            The second reason would be the portee concept. Using the truck to carry the BMD to save wear and tear on the BMD engine, tracks etc. etc. It also uses less fuel to cart the thing around on the back of a truck.



                            And there's one other idea, maybe it was a tactical choice - the autocannon of the BMD is much higher above ground level than it would normally be. In the back of that truck, it looks as though it's at a good height to fire over walls and gates like you see in the background.
                            Well hell I'd never thought about that

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                            • Carrying the BMD around on the back of a truck not only reduces wear and tear on the motor, tracks, etc. etc., it also makes it still useful without needing to have a qualified driver. In terms of Twilight, I imagine this would be a reasonable option for keeping a heavy weapon available when the vehicle normally carrying the weapon is not mobile but still usable.

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                              • Originally posted by StainlessSteelCynic View Post
                                Carrying the BMD around on the back of a truck not only reduces wear and tear on the motor, tracks, etc. etc., it also makes it still useful without needing to have a qualified driver. In terms of Twilight, I imagine this would be a reasonable option for keeping a heavy weapon available when the vehicle normally carrying the weapon is not mobile but still usable.
                                Good point, but keep in mind that lugging around an AFV hull is going to dramatically increase wear and tear on the truck's various components, so it's a bit of a trade-off.
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