How much BDAR and non-standard would be done?

[pmulcahy11b]

I have some examples of that in the back story of some of the vehicles on my sight, but how much would this really been going on Wold see see a fair number of hybrid vehicles and cobbled-together vehicles

Anyone for an M60 tank with a T-72 turret with British Army markings and an HK GMG by the commander's hatch

Or a 5-ton truck limping along with four wheels held together with axe handles, the floor lined with sandbags, armored sides with some weapon mounts mounted on the top of the armored sides -- kind like a "gun truck Jr. When are those wheels going to completely snap

[dragoon500ly]

One only has to go back in time as the Vietnam War to see armored vehicles loaded down with improvised armor (sandbags and chain link fencing), additional machineguns (one photo of an M-48 has two M-60 machine guns mounted on brackets above the headlights; and M-113 fitted with a 106mm RR for the TC to play with), and improvised vehicles of every possible discription (Stanton's OOB of Vietnam has a photo of a WWII Dingo scout car that was being used by US Army MPs for convoy escort).

So I think one can certainly see just about every possible mix of improvised mountings, not to mention anything that can run and carry armor and weapons becoming front line equipment....hmmmmm how about a VW beetle with the roof cut off, scavanged armor from a -113 and a couple of mgs on pintle mounts

[bobcat]

im imagining a captured T60 with a bradley turret would be interesting.
or a HEMTT with a pair of M242's mounted on the back

[ArmySGT.]

I think I would look to the Israelis for inspiration.

Though more weapons on any armored hull that will roll under its own power makes sense.

Turretless T55 with mine roller. Front and Rear Pact Heavy Mounts.

Turretless BTR with a Front Pact Heavy Mount sporting a Heavy Recoilless Rifle.

BTR-50 with the carrier bay stripped of seats and additional PACT and NATO radios mounted. A 1.5 kw generator mounted on the roof. Multiple radio antennas mounted.

[Mahatatain]

I recently read a book about the US "Fighting 69th" in Iraq (The Fighting 69th: One Remarkable National Guard Unit's Journey from Ground Zero to Baghdad by Sean Michael Flynn - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fighting-69t...5650592&sr=1-3) and in that book the author outlines the poor condition of many of the HUMVEEs they were given and the efforts they went to to add armour in particular to them.

If memory serves me correctly in the book of Generation Kill the author also recounts how the Marines had such poor armour on some of their HUMVEEs that they just removed doors etc so that they were able to fire out more easily and drive faster.

Therefore (Paul) I think that in the T2k setting (and the T2013 setting) you will get a lot of hybrid vehicles that are cobbled together from bits of other vehicles so any examples that you add to your site will be much appreciated!

[WallShadow]

What do you do with a bridgeless AVLB

You have a solid chassis and drivetrain, deployment arms/gear, no turret, and your bridge is probably someplace you don't want to return to: why not slap a few NHT mounts on it, maybe rig a dozer blade and/or an A-frame hoisting boom/winch/block and tackle, and go cruising around Poland looking for adventure I'm sure any of the groups in Warsaw would love to see you.