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  • #16
    You have to wonder how much the Belgians will allow themselves to be put under the French thumb. Belguim freely unified itself with France, not under the threat of invasion.

    There is a very good chance that any defections may have occurred at the time of the union itself and even before the French and Belgian forces entered the Netherlands.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Olefin View Post
      You have to wonder how much the Belgians will allow themselves to be put under the French thumb. Belguim freely unified itself with France, not under the threat of invasion.

      There is a very good chance that any defections may have occurred at the time of the union itself and even before the French and Belgian forces entered the Netherlands.
      There will be Flemish revolt if the French occupy Belgium and the Netherlands will support that revolt with the limit resources its has available. The french/Wallonia invasion of the Netherlands will bring the Flemish and Netherlands closer together.

      Originally posted by RN7 View Post
      I think by the time the French decide to invade the Netherlands any Flemish officers in the Belgian Navy would be assigned to shore duties. Belgian ships used in action along the Dutch coast would also likely be operating under French control and accompanied by French ships.
      If that happens then it will be one of many sparks that will start a Flemish revolt as it will show the Flemish people that they are second rate citizens not worthy to be in command of a navy ship or to serve on board them.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by lordroel View Post
        There will be Flemish revolt if the French occupy Belgium and the Netherlands will support that revolt with the limit resources its has available. The french/Wallonia invasion of the Netherlands will bring the Flemish and Netherlands closer together.
        The French don't occupy Belgium in T2K. Belgium and France form the Franco-Belgian Union when they leave NATO after other NATO members decide to support Germany against the Warsaw Pact in East Germany during the Reunification of Germany. Franco-Belgian forces then advance to the Rhine River and cross into German and Dutch territory after the nuclear exchanges to secure the borders against hoards of refugees and military units. The Dutch are still resisting north of the Rhine in the Netherlands, but the Germans are more preoccupied with fighting the Soviets and haven't done very much to confront the French.

        Originally posted by lordroel View Post
        If that happens then it will be one of many sparks that will start a Flemish revolt as it will show the Flemish people that they are second rate citizens not worthy to be in command of a navy ship or to serve on board them.
        There are plenty of Belgian units in the French II and III Corps that are tasked with securing the Dead Zone in Germany and the Netherlands. Many of these Belgian troops will be Flemish.

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        • #19
          thanks for explaining it to me RN7.
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          • #20
            The question really is would the Flemish go along so willingly with a war against the Netherlands Its one thing to go after the Germans since the Germans havent exactly been lilly white as far as treatment of Belguim in the 20th century - you could even see them seeing what they are doing as payback for all the "fun" they had from 1914-1918 and 1940-45 - but the Netherlands is another thing. Basically they are fighting their own people there - the Walloons are another story entirely.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Olefin View Post
              The question really is would the Flemish go along so willingly with a war against the Netherlands Its one thing to go after the Germans since the Germans havent exactly been lilly white as far as treatment of Belguim in the 20th century - you could even see them seeing what they are doing as payback for all the "fun" they had from 1914-1918 and 1940-45 - but the Netherlands is another thing. Basically they are fighting their own people there - the Walloons are another story entirely.
              Alternatively you could see it as an attempt to reunite the people of the south with their own kind in the manner of the former Yugoslavia. Taking this anology further could create all sorts of local alliances and tensions.

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