M-79 and M240 "SAW"

[weswood]

Here's something I've always wondered about, maybe somebody here knows: Why does the M79 have such a wierd shaped buttstock

[copeab]

Here's something I've always wondered about, maybe somebody here knows: Why does the M79 have such a wierd shaped buttstock

My guess is to handle the recoil better.

[O'Borg]

My guess is to handle the recoil better.

Probably, it does put the barrel right in line with the shoulder.

[pmulcahy11b]

Sounds expensive.

Probably! But about 4 kg lighter, too. Hey, we're the US! We can afford anything, and if we can't we just borrow the money from China!

[Mohoender]

Probably! But about 4 kg lighter, too. Hey, we're the US! We can afford anything, and if we can't we just borrow the money from China!

If you add the increasing involvement of your state in private business that's why some people in France are now calling you the Socialist Union of America (Union Socialiste des Amriques in French).

[Raellus]

Probably, it does put the barrel right in line with the shoulder.

Yeah, my guess is recoil and sighting.

[Raellus]

M-79 while not in the regular inventory is still used by special forces units most of the pics I have seen have been in Afghanistan.

Its one of my favorite weapons simple and effective and in a bit more accurate and than the 203. Fairly quick to fire as well , I have read that a good M-79 gunner could put 4 grenades in the air before, the first one hit the ground. Anyone used to firing a break action shotgun can easily operate this arm.

As for a cut down M-240 why not Something like the M-240E6, a gunsmith would need access to a good machine shop however. It wouldn't be as light as the Mark-48 but it would suffice. Re chambering a 249 to 7.62X51mm would be too difficult.

Yeah, I'll need to figure out a way to incorporate both into my T2K games.

In 'Nam SOG recon teams (and some LRRP teams) carried a sawed-off M-79 with a cut-down grip in a holster made out of a canteen carrier. They used it mostly for breaking contact.

[weswood]

Yeah, I'll need to figure out a way to incorporate both into my T2K games.

In 'Nam SOG recon teams (and some LRRP teams) carried a sawed-off M-79 with a cut-down grip in a holster made out of a canteen carrier. They used it mostly for breaking contact.

This is the one we need:

http://www.autoweapons.com/photos06/nov/pump40.html

[Brother in Arms]

Paul wrote:

"The M-240E6 is not actually a cut-down M-240; it's a lot lighter because the receiver and some other parts are made from titanium alloy instead of steel."

240E6 definitely has had a lot more work done to it then just being chopped. I was just saying something could be could be made up along those lines.

Myself I would add a collapsing stock from the 249, shortened barrel and some sort of a forward grip. something like a para version of the 240.


As for the cut down m-79, I have seen several pictures of these weapons used in Vietnam. given reduced ranges it worked perfectly and was much easier to carry than the full sized M-79. I have ready they continued to use these even after the introduction of the XM-148 and later M203 (though the LRRP teams picked up on the use of the XM-148 pretty quick.)

From what I have read the wood stocked M-79's where coveted by the LRRP and SOG teams for making into cut downs. As Many of the M-79's in RVN had fiberglass stocks and weren't good for cutting down and reshaping into pistol grips.

Brother in Arms

[Raellus]

This is the one we need.

A pump-action GL is kind of a neat idea but it didn't quite pan out. The SEALs experimented with those in 'Nam and found them severely lacking. The stopped using them fairly quickly and stuck with the ol' tried and true M-79 and XM-148 GLs instead. They also field tested a three-barrel GL mounted underneath an M-16 but that didn't work out either.

[weswood]

A pump-action GL is kind of a neat idea but it didn't quite pan out. The SEALs experimented with those in 'Nam and found them severely lacking. The stopped using them fairly quickly and stuck with the ol' tried and true M-79 and XM-148 GLs instead. They also field tested a three-barrel GL mounted underneath an M-16 but that didn't work out either.

Yeah, but the idea is cool!

[Brother in Arms]

Here is a recent pic of USMC soldier with M-79

[LAW0306]

Old pic around 02 to 04 he has 1st gen vest on. look at the M32 its what i carry...eat your hearts out...