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    Here's an odd question for the ordnance gurus. Is it possible to dismount an M242 Bushmaster from an M2 Bradley, reassemble it, provide an external power source, and use it as a manually-aimed weapon in a fixed position I'm aware of the naval variant that appears to be in a similar configuration, but I don't know if it's feasible to convert a standard ex-Bradley (or ex-LAV-25) gun to work that way.

    - C.
    Clayton A. Oliver • Occasional RPG Freelancer Since 1996

    Author of The Pacific Northwest, coauthor of Tara Romaneasca, creator of several other free Twilight: 2000 and Twilight: 2013 resources, and curator of an intermittent gaming blog.

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  • #2
    I would be shocked if removing the Bradley's autocannon wasn't field expedient. There have to be cases where that was considered a necessary issue. With that said, the feasibility of removing the gun and then reassembling it on another platform...hmm...
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Tegyrius View Post
      Here's an odd question for the ordnance gurus. Is it possible to dismount an M242 Bushmaster from an M2 Bradley, reassemble it, provide an external power source, and use it as a manually-aimed weapon in a fixed position I'm aware of the naval variant that appears to be in a similar configuration, but I don't know if it's feasible to convert a standard ex-Bradley (or ex-LAV-25) gun to work that way.

      - C.
      The naval mounts are nothing more than a pedestal mount with a power hook-up, otherwise its identical to the M242, its supposed to have taken a gunner's mate all of an hour to modify and a Beltway Bandit over a year to validate......or at least that's the story!
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      • #4
        Agreed:


        Not a simple procedure, but with a decent shop and a decent set of tools, I don't see why it wouldn't be too large an issue based off of when I was looking over the mounts and the take down of the bushmaster when I was with the Cav. Of course, power, and recoil would have to be taken in account.
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        • #5
          Yeah -- guys with scrapped Bradleys or other sources of M242s to scavenge from could make it happen with enough know how and equipment, but it wouldn't be anything that could happen without a machine shop and some free time.

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          • #6
            so my insane idea of putting a pair of 242's on a HEMMT gun truck could actually be feasible.
            the best course of action when all is against you is to slow down and think critically about the situation. this way you are not blindly rushing into an ambush and your mind is doing something useful rather than getting you killed.

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            • #7
              What about just grafting the whole turret onto something else M1 hull, truck, go cart, whatever is strong enough to carry it.
              If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

              Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Legbreaker View Post
                What about just grafting the whole turret onto something else M1 hull, truck, go cart, whatever is strong enough to carry it.
                the recipient vehicle would also have to be able to provide power to the turret. i would assume that alone would severely limit your options. dismounting the M242 and feed assembly and placing it on a functional vehicle would be far simpler.

                though twin brad turrets on a hemmt guntruck would be awesome if the power plant could handle it.

                (note i like the idea of having ungodly firepower on large cargo vehicles.)
                the best course of action when all is against you is to slow down and think critically about the situation. this way you are not blindly rushing into an ambush and your mind is doing something useful rather than getting you killed.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bobcat View Post
                  the recipient vehicle would also have to be able to provide power to the turret. i would assume that alone would severely limit your options. dismounting the M242 and feed assembly and placing it on a functional vehicle would be far simpler.

                  though twin brad turrets on a hemmt guntruck would be awesome if the power plant could handle it.

                  (note i like the idea of having ungodly firepower on large cargo vehicles.)
                  Abrams APU appropriated to power the Brad turrets on your HEMMT "land destroyer", et voila.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by raketenjagdpanzer View Post
                    Abrams APU appropriated to power the Brad turrets on your HEMMT "land destroyer", et voila.
                    think that would be enough juice for the tow launchers to work on the frankentank too
                    the best course of action when all is against you is to slow down and think critically about the situation. this way you are not blindly rushing into an ambush and your mind is doing something useful rather than getting you killed.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bobcat View Post
                      think that would be enough juice for the tow launchers to work on the frankentank too
                      Well I remember correctly from my TOW Missile Course, the Missile Guidance Set (MGS) will work off of batteries or it can slaved to a vechicle electrical system, in my training we used the M113 or the German Iltis, I am guessing you have do so re wiring to have it off the APU of the M1, but dos'nt the bradley have a APU
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                      • #12
                        Thanks, guys.

                        If we're talking about just the gun itself, not the whole turret assembly, what sort of power requirement is involved

                        - C.
                        Clayton A. Oliver • Occasional RPG Freelancer Since 1996

                        Author of The Pacific Northwest, coauthor of Tara Romaneasca, creator of several other free Twilight: 2000 and Twilight: 2013 resources, and curator of an intermittent gaming blog.

                        It rarely takes more than a page to recognize that you're in the presence of someone who can write, but it only takes a sentence to know you're dealing with someone who can't.
                        - Josh Olson

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tegyrius View Post
                          Thanks, guys.

                          If we're talking about just the gun itself, not the whole turret assembly, what sort of power requirement is involved

                          - C.
                          A flashlight would have enough juice to run the solenoid for the firing pin but the chain mech to pull the ammo belt through is another story.
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                          • #14
                            Rip an old lawn mower apart and there's a motor to run a few of the mechanicals. A civilian generator should produce enough for the electrical systems.
                            It wouldn't be pretty, but with a sufficiently imaginative and skilled team of techs, any obstacle could be overcome.

                            In most of the games I've been involved with in the past few years, scrapyards have been very valuable resources. In fact, one game in Krakow had the local "powers that be" reward the PCs with not weapons, ammo, food, fuel, medical supplies, etc, but with 48 manhours on the ORMO's scrapyard. Whatever they could pry loose was theirs. The players treated this right as worth more than gold!
                            If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

                            Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

                            Mors ante pudorem

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                            • #15
                              Would European Semi's have a APU I know US ones do
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