How would it go wrong TODAY? (reopened - play nice)

[Haven]

You'll have to try and catch it in theaters or more likely DVD when it comes out.


Here we go...

Ed Hoffman: Our world as we know it is much simpler...to put to an end than you might think.

[smokewolf]

Ed Hoffman: Our world as we know it is much simpler...to put to an end than you might think.

That sounds like a perfect tagline for the Twilight War.

Better than...all Natalya wanted was a pony.

[kato13]

I have pruned this thread of some unpleasantness. If you had useful information in the old thread please cut and paste it.

[pmulcahy11b]

That sounds like a perfect tagline for the Twilight War.

Better than...all Natalya wanted was a pony.

How about: All Natalya wanted was a pony...but ended up eating it a few months later...

[headquarters]

Great Fantasy work here but being in the military now let me eat some holes...One

EMP most of our stuff is now protected from it and has been for the last 10 to 15 years..so no effect there..

two..

Invasion..how will they get here. no other country in the world has an airforce or navy large enough to make it accross the lake or the logistical support to supprot there troops here..

our navy largest in the world and most powerfull would sink or shoot down any thing coming even the most modern stuff from anyone else..

our nukes..we would make anyone glow if the even came close to our coast.

command and control the milgov and civ gov split could never happen trust me on this if ..i say more i goto jail just trust me on this one..

our ground troops..just two of our divisions beat down Iraq in 3 weeks of combat.. so the other 10 we have at home would crush anyone on our home turf not to mention our 8 NG divisions and the 2 to 8 million armed former military members that would come out of the wood work and the 2 to 8 million non ex military members that are armed that would show up... so who has that much power no one..

EMPs and effects on electrical or electronic equipment is still debated - catastrophic damage seems a likely outcome in many plausible scenarios.Hardening of electronic circuits against emp apply to some equipment ,but not all .Nor can hardening equipment protect it in all circumstances . (Farraday cages not practical /antennae are up ,circuits rely on silicon chips rather than vacuum tubes -like much eastern bloc equipment have )

The power of the armed forces is undeniable and all well and good if the enemy presents himself in a regular war -or even in an irregular one such as the current ones you are fighting -and might be winning by the looks of it .It is a lot easier if the enemy is someone easily "alienated" by your own side .Get into a grey zone and people will start making decisisons that mix things up a lot. ( say for instance a blue and grey zone )

But breakdown of civil services and supply lines would cause unrest ,making the 150 000 000 firearms in private ownership in the US a liability rather than an asset for someone running an operation to get things to simmer down .Not that average people would turn their back on the goverment and country for no reason or commit crimes just for the hell of it -but more that interests would collide and the needs of loved ones might conquer law and principle -for instance if food or fuel got scarce the question of who is to control distribution would quickly turn ugly imho.(h for humble as always -but this is a discussion so..)

Not to mention the situations you would have were things are really bad -look to the situation after recent tropical storms,earthquakes and the publics reaction to certain methods used by law enforcement in apprehending criminals in certain instances .Sparks will fly and there is no denying that a society under pressure is highly combustible.

As for an outright invasion - no one can touch the CONUS - probably not the overseas territories and states either .

If things should go TWILIGHT wrong from now until 2011 I lean to explanations such as massive terrorist/assymetrical attacks targeting vital functions combined with psy ops to achieve destabilization and lawlessness .As soon as a conventional enemy shows himself -like an insurgent coalition or an invader, people will rally for the fight.

As for a split in the command/governing structure - this might very well occur as long as sufficient chaos is instigated -civgov/milgov might not be the name of it ( more likely milgov/milgov) , nevertheless wide distances alone is sufficient to make for differences in a governing body .Throw in a hundred or thousands of miles of lawless terrain between the seat of power and the areas it is supposed to rule and disrupted communications - things are bound to get mixed up .Add a human factor that might not be positive - you can get a pretty good plot out of it .For a game that is .As for real life -this has happened several times throughout history to powerful states in times of crisis.

History repeats itself.

I dont think it will today though.

hehe