Anyone out there play Bill Gant's Gunmaster?

[Michael Lewis]

I've been reading Harnmaster and discovered this set of rules.

[kato13]

I've looked at it at it seems like a great set of rules.

Targan is the in house expert though. Hopefully he can provide additional information.

[Targan]

Anyone out there play Bill Gant's Gunmaster

Have I ever! I'm proud to say that Bill Gant's been my friend for nearly 25 years and I was in the original play testing group for Gunmaster. In fact one of my illustrations is in the first edition of the Gunmaster rulebook.

After Gunmaster was created, every campaign I have run has used the Harnmaster/Gunmaster rules, and after I spent a year converting Twilight:2000 to Gunmaster I ran a 10 year (real time, 8 months game time) Gunmaster:2000 campaign. I've also played in or run many Harnmaster campaigns, several lasting more than a decade.

So yeah, I'd like to think I know a little bit about the Harnmaster and Gunmaster systems

[mikeo80]

Based on what you said, Targan, where could I find the rules Is the game still in print On Line I appreciate any help. Real life has made my google-fu very weak tonight.

My $0.02

Mike

[Michael Lewis]

I'm interested in how you do character creation. Do you have anything you could share

I've learned the rules for harnmaster 3 and read some of gun master. I want to make a character as in twilight 2000.

[Targan]

Based on what you said, Targan, where could I find the rules Is the game still in print On Line I appreciate any help. Real life has made my google-fu very weak tonight.

Gunmaster, written by Bill Gant, is a free rules addition to Harnmaster. Harnmaster is highly detailed RPG system originally designed to be used with the Harn setting (Harn is an island similar to Britain on the fictional planet Kethira). Gunmaster isn't usable without first having a copy of and understanding the Harnmaster rules. Gunmaster brings the Harnmaster system, which focusses on realistic depiction of life and combat in a middle ages setting, into the modern era.

The latest version of Gunmaster is meant for use with the Harnmaster Gold version of the Harnmaster rules. There have been a number of editions of Harnmaster over the years, made more complicated by a licensing/ownership dispute between the original creator of the system, the late great N Robin Crosby, and the games publishing company Columbia Games. Harnmaster Gold was the last edition of Harnmaster published by N Robin Crosby. It wouldn't be difficult for Gunmaster Gold to be converted to any version of Harnmaster and I'm sure Bill Gant could provide earlier versions of Gunmaster to assist with that.

All of Bill Gant's various Harnmaster house rules (including Gunmaster) can be found at WarFlail's Armoury house rules section (NOTE SECURITY WARNING see below. If you still wish to visit the site. Remove the code "REMOVEME-" from the link - KATO13 ADMIN). Harnmaster Gold can be bought from Kelestia.com, or from any fine gaming store that still has physical copies in stock.

I've never published my T2K to Gunmaster conversion but I still have the great bulk of it on hand; much of it is in various electronic formats but some of it I'd have to scan from hard copies. If anyone was serious about wanting to use my material I'd be happy to provide them with whatever I could pull together. After my last Gunmaster:2000 campaign ended I was kind of heartbroken so I haven't looked at any of it for some years.

[Targan]

I'm interested in how you do character creation. Do you have anything you could share

I've learned the rules for harnmaster 3 and read some of gun master. I want to make a character as in twilight 2000.

The simplest way to create a T2K-type character would be to use the Gunmaster Occupations rules.

In my T2K conversion we made things a whole lot more complicated by using a Lifepath system modified from Cyberpunk 2020 (before I converted T2K I converted the entire Cyperpunk 2020 system to Gunmaster). In my system, a character's career would be generated year by year after they left high school. Admittedly that made char gen a really long and complicated process, but it had the advantage of creating characters with very rich back stories and believable lives.

I'll upload part of my char gen rules, be aware they contain some references to Cyberpunk-game setting rules that I forgot to edit out. I'll try to find my detailed lifepath rules too and upload them when I can.

[Targan]

Also, here is the skill list we were using for my last campaign. Some skills obviously wouldn't apply in T2K as they come from the Cyberpunk 2020 setting. Also be aware that there are 2 tabs, Physical Skills etc and Combat Skills.

[Michael Lewis]

Thanks

Thanks for posting this. I'll start looking at it. Do you mind if I pm you for questions

Or would email be better

[Michael Lewis]

The simplest way to create a T2K-type character would be to use the Gunmaster Occupations rules.

In my T2K conversion we made things a whole lot more complicated by using a Lifepath system modified from Cyberpunk 2020 (before I converted T2K I converted the entire Cyperpunk 2020 system to Gunmaster).

Which version of the Cyberpunk rules did you use It looks like there are a couple of them out there.

[Targan]

Thanks for posting this. I'll start looking at it. Do you mind if I pm you for questions

Or would email be better

Please feel free to contact me. PMs are fine but my inbox is perpetually close to full so emails might be a better option.

Which version of the Cyberpunk rules did you use It looks like there are a couple of them out there.

Secend edition (I bought everything published that I could get my hands on). Only recently became aware that they made a third edition in 2005.

[mikeo80]

Targan,

I just went to the WarFlail's web site. My Anti Virus program went NUTS as IE tried to open the site. Any Ideas Thoughts

The Kalestia site worked fine.

Just thought you would want to know.

My $0.02

Mike

[Michael Lewis]

Character sheet

What character sheet do you use Harnmaster Gold

What did you use for vehicle combat

Could you explain your character creation process from Gunmaster 2000

What are Skill Checks

Do you get all of those occupational skills

How many optional skills do you get

What is luck

[kato13]

Please feel free to contact me. PMs are fine but my inbox is perpetually close to full so emails might be a better option.

I had no idea the limit was so low (100). I have upped the Max message count to 500.

[Targan]

Targan,

I just went to the WarFlail's web site. My Anti Virus program went NUTS as IE tried to open the site. Any Ideas Thoughts

Hmm, I opened it yesterday and my anti-virus software didn't blink. I'd be very surprised if Bill allowed anything malicious on his site but it's connected to a Harnmaster webring that tends to automatically open when the site is accessed and I can't vouch for all the other sites it's connected to.