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  • Chain Gun Strykers and AGS Redux

    Looks like there's some discussion of up-gunning the infantry Strykers and resurrecting the AGS (again):

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  • #2
    Kinda half expected the AGS to make the news soon. After Olefin said the airborne came looking at them.

    It looks like the Army is starting to set the stage for 2016. There is a high likelihood that whoever runs for POTUS will incorporate something about rebuilding the armed forces. They are lining up their ducks.
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    • #3
      I know they still havent put the tarps back on them and that they were run thru the wringer for several days.

      However won't be able to get any more intel on the AGS as I was let go this week. Was a lot of fun working on those vehicles the last five years but apparently its time to move on to new challenges.

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      • #4
        Shame to hear about that Olefin - but thanks for the heads up.

        Bringing back the M8AGS is a cheap and quick way to get a light tank into service: so not really surprised to hear about it getting attention. I am surprised that they are looking at a 30mm though: there are RWS type turrets that do mount a 25mm Bushmaster, would have thought that would have been what they was playing with.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Olefin View Post
          However won't be able to get any more intel on the AGS as I was let go this week. Was a lot of fun working on those vehicles the last five years but apparently its time to move on to new challenges.
          Ouch. Sympathy, dude. I got hit with that a year ago and got a warning on it again last month.

          Originally posted by Panther Al View Post
          Bringing back the M8AGS is a cheap and quick way to get a light tank into service: so not really surprised to hear about it getting attention. I am surprised that they are looking at a 30mm though: there are RWS type turrets that do mount a 25mm Bushmaster, would have thought that would have been what they was playing with.
          Some of those same turrets will mount a 30mm Bushmaster II or 35mm Bushmaster III.

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          Clayton A. Oliver • Occasional RPG Freelancer Since 1996

          Author of The Pacific Northwest, coauthor of Tara Romaneasca, creator of several other free Twilight: 2000 and Twilight: 2013 resources, and curator of an intermittent gaming blog.

          It rarely takes more than a page to recognize that you're in the presence of someone who can write, but it only takes a sentence to know you're dealing with someone who can't.
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          • #6
            Canada has been using Strykers with a turet and 25mm Bushmaster since the late 90's

            I will not hide. I will not be deterred nor will I be intimidated from my performing my duty, I am a Canadian Soldier.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Olefin View Post
              I know they still havent put the tarps back on them and that they were run thru the wringer for several days.

              However won't be able to get any more intel on the AGS as I was let go this week. Was a lot of fun working on those vehicles the last five years but apparently its time to move on to new challenges.
              sorry to hear the news Olefin, I'm in a similar circumstance, just got the word my dept is being outsourced December 1.

              I liked your insight about the AGS, I wonder if they will develop the 120mm armed hybrid AGS technology demonstrator. Now that would be interesting.

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              • #8
                Buy LAHAT from the Israelis, license build it here, slap an M- production number on it and couple it with a 120mm armed AGS and presto we have the vehicle the Sheridan should have been...!
                THIS IS MY SIG, HERE IT IS.

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                • #9
                  Sorry to hear that Olefin, hope something comes your way soon.

                  The 120mm AGS won't be developed as it was only a proof of concept. They wanted to demonstrate that a cannon that size could function on a light armored vehicle. All the lessons learned from that went into the CV90120.

                  Besides, with the MGS being fielded the 105mm round is back in Army service. There is no need to match the cannon to the Abrams for ammo compatibility/logistics reasons. All the AGS needs is to be fitted with BFT/digital comms and you have a finished product. Cheap and ready to go. While I am a fan of the 120mm, the 105 still has sufficient punch.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sith View Post
                    Sorry to hear that Olefin, hope something comes your way soon.

                    The 120mm AGS won't be developed as it was only a proof of concept. They wanted to demonstrate that a cannon that size could function on a light armored vehicle. All the lessons learned from that went into the CV90120.

                    Besides, with the MGS being fielded the 105mm round is back in Army service. There is no need to match the cannon to the Abrams for ammo compatibility/logistics reasons. All the AGS needs is to be fitted with BFT/digital comms and you have a finished product. Cheap and ready to go. While I am a fan of the 120mm, the 105 still has sufficient punch.
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                    CV90!

                    What do we want

                    CV90!

                    When do we want it

                    NOW!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Panther Al View Post
                      Who do we love

                      CV90!

                      What do we want

                      CV90!

                      When do we want it

                      NOW!
                      They are pretty awesome aren't they.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Targan View Post
                        They are pretty awesome aren't they.
                        Greatest thing since sliced bread in the world of AFV's.

                        Lets face it, these are the versions that have entered production, or at least a low volume production prototypes:

                        IFV (40mm)
                        IFV (35mm)
                        IFV (30mm)
                        Lt. Tank (105mm)
                        Lt. Tank (120mm)
                        SPAAG
                        SP Mortar Carrier (And you gotta check out the AMOS system....)
                        Command Post
                        ARV
                        FIST-V
                        APC

                        And most of those models have different versions with different armour loadouts.

                        They did engineering prototypes of the following:

                        ATGM Carrier
                        155mm SPG

                        You can pretty much kit out an entire division out of nothing but CV90 Variants.
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