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    CONAKRY, Guinea - An Ebola outbreak that has killed more than 700 people in West Africa is moving faster than efforts to control the disease, the head of the World Health Organization warned as presidents from the affected countries met Friday in Guinea's capital.

    Dr. Margaret Chan, the WHO's director-general, said the meeting in Conakry "must be a turning point" in the battle against Ebola, which is now sickening people in three African capitals for the first time in history.

    "If the situation continues to deteriorate, the consequences can be catastrophic in terms of lost lives but also severe socio-economic disruption and a high risk of spread to other countries," she said, as the WHO formally launched a $100 million response plan that includes deploying hundreds more health care workers.

    Medecins Sans Frontieres, also known as Doctors Without Borders, said the WHO pledge "needs to translate to immediate and effective action." While the group has deployed some 550 health workers, it said it did not have the resources to expand further.

    Doctors Without Borders said its teams are overwhelmed with new Ebola patients in Sierra Leone and that the situation in Liberia is now "dire."

    "Over the last weeks, there has been a significant surge in the epidemic - the number of cases has increased dramatically in Sierra Leone and Liberia, and the disease has spread to many more villages and towns," the organization said in a statement. "After a lull in new cases in Guinea, there has been a resurgence in infections and deaths in the past week."

    At least 729 people have died since cases first emerged in March: 339 in Guinea, 233 in Sierra Leone, 156 in Liberia and one in Nigeria.
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  • #2
    And now, one American who contracted Ebola is back IN the USA fro treatment. Another will arrive tomorrow

    Am I the only one who thinks this is INSANE

    Possible Ebola vectors.

    Air plane used to move patients.
    Plane occupants. Pilot, co-pilot, Drs and nurses tending to patient.
    Ambulance to Hospital
    Ambulance driver, Dr, nurse etc
    Hospital NEAR CDC. BTW, CDC is IN Atlanta, Ga.
    All of the people near patient.

    I mean really guys

    I do not want to see any one die. But now you bring a LIVE case of Ebola to the USA

    I am very confused.

    My $0.02

    Mike

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    • #3
      The USA has had 2 ebola outbreaks already. One in Cali and one in Texas, granted this was only in monkeys that had come from the Philippines.
      Also they are going to the CDC, I think they will handle this pretty well.

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      • #4
        Ebola can be much more safely dealt with in developed countries than in the under-developed parts of Africa where it comes from. It's not much consolation for the 90% of patients who die after contracting Ebola, but the rest of the population can easily be protected by quarantines and containment.

        Now, if Ebola mutated in two specific ways, becoming contagious during the incubation phase and becoming easier to transmit coughing/breathing in the resulting aerosol, we could all be in a great deal of trouble.
        sigpic "It is better to be feared than loved" - Nicolo Machiavelli

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        • #5
          I would feel better about the work of the CDC on this if they didn't have 3 serious breaches of containment discovered in the past three months. Most seriously in my opinion being the discovery of "misplaced" small pox samples from decades ago. Given we were repeatedly given 100% assurances that the only remaining virus were in well protected labs. (The fact that the samples were almost assuredly nonviable makes me feel a little better but does not excuse it)

          I agree that having the US take care of its sick citizens is comparable to having a ballerina who was raised in a acrobat family carry your coffee (the highest dexterity you can imagine). However safe it probably is, a spill is still possible. We have all rolled 00 at some point in our lives.

          edit: I guess the small pox was viable
          Deadly smallpox was in at least two of the vials NIH employees found in unused storage room, the CDC says. Smallpox has been eradicated since the 1980s.
          Last edited by kato13; 08-03-2014, 05:34 PM.

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          • #6
            They should be brought to a place where it can be contained not a populated city like Atlanta. The CDC has an island for things like this off New York! I fully believe it will be something like this that will be the doom of mankind.

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            • #7
              all things considered i'm fairly sure the boys with their plastic beakers aren't going to be dumb enough to allow anyone in contact with the patients without proper protective gear. not to mention most modern hospitals have their own quarantine wards and CBRN rated air filters on all ducting. heck even my backwater town hospital has all that. so if there was a major outbreak in the US i doubt it would start in Georgia.(please don't ask me to explain my exact reasoning. if the other team hasn't thought of it i don't want to give them ideas.)
              the best course of action when all is against you is to slow down and think critically about the situation. this way you are not blindly rushing into an ambush and your mind is doing something useful rather than getting you killed.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bobcat View Post
                so if there was a major outbreak in the US i doubt it would start in Georgia.
                Until your post got me thinking I had forgotten that Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport (serving Atlanta) is the busiest airport in the World (We in Chicago are in denial about that). I truly think the chances of an outbreak are miniscule, but that is another reason to possibly question if Atlanta is the best place for this.
                Last edited by kato13; 08-04-2014, 04:30 PM.

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                • #9
                  And of course now that it's known we have a "cure" (really a sort of "Well...maybe this'll work" experiment we did on the two US doctors), how many infected people will be trying to sneak into the US because "they've got a cure!"

                  :/
                  THIS IS MY SIG, HERE IT IS.

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                  • #10
                    Actually Ebola has escaped much stricter conditions than the CDC in Atlanta in the past. Back about thirty years ago a researcher in the British Chemical Warfare labs somehow got himself infected and they had about as stringent safety protocols or better as the CDC probably has.

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                    • #11
                      At this moment, I have raised my personal alert status from green to yellow. I am not at "OH S***"...yet.

                      Made sure that water supply is in good rotation mode, food supplies properly stored and ready, keeping cars as full of gas as possible, more ammo brought from storage to ready. Plastic sheets and duct tape ready.

                      Maybe I am over re-acting....

                      Rather safe than sorry.

                      My $0.02

                      Mike

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                      • #12
                        In the 1990's epidemiologists thought Ebola might be the disease they have a name for-"Slate Wiper". The original mutates millions of times every 24 hours. The original is probably safer than the weaponized samples Russia has. Developed countries transportation networks make it scary, isolation of the sick is Africa's chief defense.

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                        • #13
                          Isolation is the only real way to contain it. Not bring it to labs on separate continents. I fully expect this to get out somehow and cause an issue somewhere in the world. Its almost inevitable with airlines and people being people.

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                          • #14
                            I remember from the non-fiction book "The Hot Zone" that two of the pioneering researchers accidentally inhaled Ebola Reston during the early phases of the investigation. (It smelled like grape juice if i recall correctly)

                            Rather than remove themselves from their research (or even tell anyone), they continued to work. They depended on the fact that they were working in isolation suits to protect their coworkers. With frequent testing of their blood after a time they were confident they were not infected.

                            In the end, they were fine and the research went on unimpeded by the exposure, but is shows how human nature can make smart people violate protocols if they think they either know better or that they have a handle on it.

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                            • #15
                              Airports were what I looked at for my Marburg Z frame work. Fast travel is the chief hazard for pandemics.

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