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  • Who Would Make a Good Warlord?

    It seems like most of the well-known T2K module marauder leaders are ex-military. That obviously makes a lot of sense but I'd like options, and I'm sure there would be non-military bandit kings out there too in a post-apoc world. Who would make a good warlord

    Let's except crime bosses and street gang leaders as being fairly obvious as well. Who does that leave

    Powerful local law enforcement figures. Here in Arizona there's a long-serving Sheriff who's often been accused of making his own laws, or at least acting as though he were above the existing ones. Such figures strike me as being perfectly placed to assumed warlorddom when the SHTF.

    Someone who runs a security company might be in a position to try to accrue more power. He/she would have a ready force of armed personnel, and perhaps access to armored vehicles (AFAIK, most bankroll/payroll transporters belong to private contractors and not the financial institutions themselves).

    For some reason, construction company owners strike me as being in a good position to become local strongmen. They have experience and resources that would be in high demand in the event of a governmental breakdown, and rolls of employees used to hard, physical labor, and getting their hands dirty (literally).

    Maybe talk radio hosts A really charismatic figure with a large audience could, while the airwaves are still open, mobilize quite a force of like-minded people.

    Along the same lines, charismatic religious leaders could manipulate followers into becoming their private armies. I'm thinking that evangelical millennialists and "end-timers" would be particularly well-sited to seize power on a local or even regional level.

    What other types of pre-war careers would produce unconventional but plausible candidates for post-TDM warlordism
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    Gang leaders.... major CEOs of some corporation.... spin doctors
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    • #3
      Possibly...under the right circumstances...an evangelical preacher.
      I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons...First We Take Manhattan, Jennifer Warnes

      Entirely too much T2K stuff here: www.pmulcahy.com

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      • #4
        In many parts of rural America, particularly the Deep South, your local warlords will be whichever families already hold power in their home counties by virtue of multi-generational accrual of wealth and political connections. They're the dynasties who've had a sheriff or county commissioner or judge or county coroner or jailer in every generation. Their names are already on the local companies that are the county's biggest employers. Their kids always get away with everything in high school before going to a private college. They may not be powerful in D.C. but they sure can pull strings in the state senate. When things start falling apart, the ones who are actually competent (as opposed to just riding along on their ancestors' achievements) will emerge as natural power foci.

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        Clayton A. Oliver • Occasional RPG Freelancer Since 1996

        Author of The Pacific Northwest, coauthor of Tara Romaneasca, creator of several other free Twilight: 2000 and Twilight: 2013 resources, and curator of an intermittent gaming blog.

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        • #5
          A bar or nightclub owner may have, initially at least, access to a number of "luxury" items - alcohol, tobacco, drugs, women, as well as a range of contacts they might be able to call on, and be well known within the local community, all of which may come in useful when empire building.

          On a related note to the bar / nightclub owner, I don't know if you intended to include this under security companies, but in the UK it's common for bar / nightclub bouncers to work for specialist companies who then provide doormen to pubs on a contract basis, so someone who owned one of those companies would potentially have access to a number of people who are well used to trouble. In some cases the same companies also provided stewards for concerts / football matches, etc, so have hundreds of people on their payrolll (for many it's a second job opportunity and / or a chance to get into events for free).

          Probably too obvious, but pre war politicians might be an option.

          A charismatic university professor perhaps Possibly one who has studied / taught certain periods of history that may have given them some knowledge / insight that may prove useful in the T2K World For example, someone who is a subject matter expert on the medieval World may attempt to use their knowledge to recreate some sort of feudal State with themselves at its centre

          Ultimately though, all you really need is someone particularly charismatic who is ideally a good orator as well. When I put my Alternative Survivor's Guide to the UK together I made one of the major marauder leaders a former call centre worker who manoeuvred himself into being in the right place at the right time



          Another was a student nurse before the war



          So whilst some career paths obviously offer an advantage in terms of having resources / people already in place, I think pretty much anyone could end up as a warlord, particularly in areas where there is a mass movement of people leading to refugees overwhelming established communities.
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          • #6
            Me.
            sigpic "It is better to be feared than loved" - Nicolo Machiavelli

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Targan View Post
              Me.
              +1
              I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons...First We Take Manhattan, Jennifer Warnes

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Targan View Post
                Me.
                Always thought there was something megalomaniac about you Targan

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                • #9
                  Here's possibly stupid idea, but still possible in my mind: Major TV personalities (especially from news organizations) who had a large following before TV went byebye.
                  I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons...First We Take Manhattan, Jennifer Warnes

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                  • #10
                    People seem to assume that military officers make perfect warlord material but there is an obvious problem there. They hold authority due to their rank in the military. Any authority they have is basically because of that rank, if the military collapses how many soldiers will continue blindly following them if they decide to become warlords Certainly some might want to stick together simply because it offers better chances of survival but they might just as well decide to leave and try to get back to their families or perhaps find other units are not being led by a "warlord."

                    Gangs, biker gangs and organised criminal organisations on the other hand I see as a perfect breeding ground for warlords and their armies.

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                    • #11
                      My wife.
                      “We’re not innovating. We’re selectively imitating.” June Bernstein, Acting President of the University of Arizona in Tucson, November 15, 1998.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by pmulcahy11b View Post
                        Possibly...under the right circumstances...an evangelical preacher.
                        I used this idea with the Blood Horde in northern New England. I've been thinking about trying to develop something with a bit less cannibalism and sacking and more genuinely Christian spirit for a surviving community in Phoenix.
                        “We’re not innovating. We’re selectively imitating.” June Bernstein, Acting President of the University of Arizona in Tucson, November 15, 1998.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by pmulcahy11b View Post
                          Here's possibly stupid idea, but still possible in my mind: Major TV personalities (especially from news organizations) who had a large following before TV went byebye.
                          a la The Omega Man with Charlton Heston

                          Course could also just be someone famous

                          i.e. The Postman movie

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                          • #14
                            What about History or a Political Science Professor.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Askold View Post
                              People seem to assume that military officers make perfect warlord material but there is an obvious problem there. They hold authority due to their rank in the military. Any authority they have is basically because of that rank, if the military collapses how many soldiers will continue blindly following them if they decide to become warlords Certainly some might want to stick together simply because it offers better chances of survival but they might just as well decide to leave and try to get back to their families or perhaps find other units are not being led by a "warlord."
                              Not just any officer is going to become a warlord by virtue of their rank. The crap ones would be more likely to be fragged in a SHTF scenario. But, as the Romans have taught us, loyalty to a successful and/or charismatic officer can often trump loyalty to a more abstract concept such as "the state" or "the people". In Rome's case, this phenomenon led to the end of the Republic and largely contributed to the end of the Empire.
                              Author of Twilight 2000 adventure modules, Rook's Gambit and The Poisoned Chalice, the campaign sourcebook, Korean Peninsula, the gear-book, Baltic Boats, and the co-author of Tara Romaneasca, a campaign sourcebook for Romania, all available for purchase on DriveThruRPG:

                              https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product...--Rooks-Gambit
                              https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product...ula-Sourcebook
                              https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product...nia-Sourcebook
                              https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product...liate_id=61048
                              https://preview.drivethrurpg.com/en/...-waters-module

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