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  • #16
    Lots of German and American prisoners got shot out of hand during the war, especially later in the war of Germans by Americans.

    My own great uncle told me how at Omaha they had shot out of hand several German POW's who had just surrendered. In the heat of battle a lot of men on both sides who had just seen their buddies killed in droves really didnt care too much about what others might see as war crimes.

    And I agree on those tactics - those are more like what a Chinese or Japanese commander would come up with, not a German. Unless their commander was some kind of deskbound officer who had never been in combat and had no idea of tactics beyond what he read in wartime propaganda. The only way that scene would have been accurate would be if it was Hitler Youth forces - have read a lot about some incredibly stupid things they did in 1945 because they literally knew nothing about tactics except to charge the enemy.

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    • #17
      A bunch of the guys I know who reenact German army during ww2 saw it with a German ww2 vet. They tell me Yogi (the vet) said the last battle was all wrong, even at that point in the war they would have called in artillery and leveled the building and the tank at the crossroads.

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      • #18
        Counts what's available, this was set in the last month of the war when the bulk of what was available was rerouted to face the Russians and keep them from Berlin. Quite a few German Commanders were more interested in holding the line with the Russians and hoping the Brits and Americans would take Berlin so they could hopefully get a better deal. They didn't know the US and Brits had written Berlin off and they wanted the industrial plants in the West of Germany.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by stormlion1 View Post
          Counts what's available, this was set in the last month of the war when the bulk of what was available was rerouted to face the Russians and keep them from Berlin. Quite a few German Commanders were more interested in holding the line with the Russians and hoping the Brits and Americans would take Berlin so they could hopefully get a better deal. They didn't know the US and Brits had written Berlin off and they wanted the industrial plants in the West of Germany.
          This is another reason why the film's suicidal German banzai charges on a disabled tank in late April of '45 were all wrong.
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          • #20
            I saw it this afternoon. I enjoyed it for the most part, particularly the tank-on-tank scenes. I've seen better but also have seen a lot worse. It wasn't Saving Private Ryan or Band of Brothers, but it will be good to buy on DVD and watch with a few beers.

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            • #21
              Lets say this - I put that last battle's realism on a par with 107 out of the USN's 108 attack subs being sunk in a war with the Soviet Navy while somehow a noisy Soviet boomer with no escorting submarines survives for months in the North Atlantic after coming up to fire its nukes no less than three separate times

              nuff said

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              • #22
                Late to the party but my thoughts below;

                A single tank with 5 men in it travelling across the country, very T2K-ish.

                Lots of scenes with tanks driving over bodies, men burning, slop, T2K-atmospheric.

                The CGI tracer bullets were very good. The battle scenes were very good, confusing, loud, disorientating at times, how i think battle would be. The sounds of battle were great (I watched wearing headphones).

                Tank breaking down and needing to be fixed, T2K!

                Using decoy or tactics to draw an enemy in, T2K!

                I liked how when tanks were hit, the round punched in leaving a nice hole behind and the inside of the tank glowing/on fire. Seemed more real than the tank just "exploding" like a car in a mid-80's tv series might.

                Fighting a little "drunk", felt realistic.

                Not as good as Private Ryan. Band of Brothers for mine sits on top for best movie/TV show.

                The playing house scene was 8 minutes too long.

                Use of smoke.

                Everyone having a nickname.

                It took the SS about 3 hours and 300 men too long before they broke out the Panzerfausts to take on the tank.

                Best job i ever had.
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                • #23
                  What, no German 88s

                  And was the MG 42 well represented
                  "God bless America, the land of the free, but only so long as it remains the home of the brave."

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                  • #24
                    The Tiger was a real Tiger 1. Its the restored one that the Brits captured in Aftica.

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