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    Lets face it, most of our characters would have earned high decorations, many times over.

    How do you handle such things
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  • #2
    A while back I thought about modifying this for the Twilight war

    Army Ribbon Rack Builder is a utility for checking the order of ribbons


    Any thoughts as to what Awards would be added

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    • #3
      Some people might argue, giving medals to characters is demeaning towards the soldiers who have actually earned it, but the truth is, it is no more demeaning than portraying decorations for a character in a book or a movie. When a character in any campaign of mine has pulled some great feat, I tend to reward it if possible. I look at the various decorations and the requirements for awarding them, then pick the most suitable.

      I'm not the only one doing that. One of my characters in a Vietnam War campaign based on Phoenix Command received Silver Star for his actions leading the team and a number of Montagnards in defense of their base against a whole battalion of VC.
      "Listen to me, nugget, and listen good. Don't go poppin' your head out like that, unless you want it shot off. And if you do get it shot off, make sure you're dead, because if you ain't, guess who's gotta drag your sorry ass off the field? Were short on everything, so the only painkiller I have comes in 9mm doses. Now get the hell out of my foxhole!" - an unknown medic somewhere, 2013.

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      • #4
        When one gets to the point of T2K, medals and other bobbles will be as useful as direct deposit. Will the troops really care or would they be considered meaningless
        "God bless America, the land of the free, but only so long as it remains the home of the brave."

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        • #5
          I agree, I don't see it adding to skills or anything with game play. I see it adding to character and non player character development.

          If you had characters from the same unit, they might resepect that character more
          I will not hide. I will not be deterred nor will I be intimidated from my performing my duty, I am a Canadian Soldier.

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          • #6
            You could have the medal tied to an increase in skills or a physical reward to try to make medals almost into level advancements like in D&D - certain medals would give you higher stature with servicemen who know what it takes to get one - which may increase your leadership skills or possibly even your ability to interact with enemy soldiers - a Good Conduct Medal isnt going to impress anyone where a Silver Star or Navy Cross just might

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            • #7
              If I would give any mechanical benefits from having medals it would be reputation related social bonuses. People look at Trooper 24232-X and even if they don't know anything about him if they recognize the medal(s) it will have an effect on what they think about him.

              Not that every civilian would recognize random medals and particularly in a setting like Twilight there is a chance that he took the medal (and his uniform) off some dead guy who had earned it.


              Only war has rules for medals and the medals themselves give relevant benefits based on what you had to do to earn them. Or maybe it is that achieving those things gave the characters bonuses and the medals were just ceremonial.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jester View Post
                When one gets to the point of T2K, medals and other bobbles will be as useful as direct deposit. Will the troops really care or would they be considered meaningless
                It would probably vary between characters... and some medals have serious trading value just on gold content.

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                • #9
                  If one wants mechanical advantages for medals, then reputation is the answer. On the other hand, it isn't exactly what I'd necessarily give them for - the medals, if awarded, add to immersion and realism. A 25-year service veteran of a combatvarm who has seen a number of battles will probably have at least some kind of a decoration for valor, unless there is something seriously curious going on.
                  "Listen to me, nugget, and listen good. Don't go poppin' your head out like that, unless you want it shot off. And if you do get it shot off, make sure you're dead, because if you ain't, guess who's gotta drag your sorry ass off the field? Were short on everything, so the only painkiller I have comes in 9mm doses. Now get the hell out of my foxhole!" - an unknown medic somewhere, 2013.

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                  • #10
                    I highly doubt there are alot of medals floating around anyways. Probly would sell the metal medals and switch to strictly patches or something. Maybe the officer in charge would keep a written record of achievements to be acknowledged later Just some thoughts.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by pmulcahy11b View Post
                      Lets face it, most of our characters would have earned high decorations, many times over.
                      Or been court martialed. (Let's face it, player characters do seem to go fast and loose with mundane things like consideration of the law, human lives, the consequences of their actions, etc.)


                      Some of this can depend on your players. Some may love this, seeing it as some cool character development. Others may not give a crap, since it gives no tangible (in game) benefit that they can see. (Silver Star Yeah, I'm sure that'll be a big help when the M60 is low on ammo!)

                      From a GM's perspective, thing of it like bestowing titles in D&D. It can give a little honor and prestige to the character (maybe a bonus to reaction rolls when meeting an NPC), but they can't use it to buy the goodies they so eagerly crave (and you as the GM, do not want them to get their greedy little hands on). But then, to turn down the honor, can make them look like ingrates (thus leading to a penalty to reaction rolls when dealing with those particular NPCs, who also happen to be above them in the command structure).

                      Speaking of NPCs, medals can be used to add a bit of detail to them as well. "Yeah, I got this when I was with the 148th in 1997, when we fought in Lublin...(add rest of BS story here)." Then, a character in the party can mention HE was in the 148th in 1997, does not recognize the guy and most importantly, the 148th never got within 400km of Lublin, not in 1997 or any other year.
                      There's also the "broken pedestal" NPC you can use here. You know, guy with the CMH, comes off all heroic and respectable. Then the PC group finds out he's really the guy behind the white slavery ring, and that may not even be the worst of what he's into these days.

                      Back to player characters. The medals may bring prestige to them (especially if they do get a tangible thing like reaction bonuses, which might encourage them to wear the medals in public), but it can also bring them undesired attention. The enemy soldier who takes out an opposing grunt may get at best "Good job. Now do it 10 more times.", but the one who takes out the guy on the other side with the trophy rack on his jacket, who boosts the morale of the enemy unit, may get something more...maybe even a medal of his own! (for all that's worth)


                      Of course, after Kalisz and everything else falling apart, there may not be many people giving out medals anymore.
                      "They couldn't hit an elephant at this dis...."

                      Major General John Sedgwick, Union Army (1813 - 1864)

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                      • #12
                        I think medals also depend where you are - in Korea and Iran and Kenya the war is still very much a going concern with a real chain of command, military discipline, etc..

                        On the other hand things in the US depend on how you approach things as to Howling Wildnerness or not and if you are with CivGov or MilGov

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                        • #13
                          All of this (as has been mentioned already) falls back to Reputation. As I have stated in the past, I'm not fond of the Reflex System in 2013, but they did several things well. The Reputation rules are another system that you can cleanly "lift" from 2013 and use in the older editions. While not perfect, they are pretty well done.

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                          • #14
                            In T2K, the game, medals are cool fluff. I think that they do have their place in the T2KU. I doubt that many physical medals would be distributed in the T2KU after the exchanges, but paper "I.O.U."s would likely continue to be handed out.

                            It's a morale thing. People like to be recognized for their efforts. A PC in a PbP that I play in recently told some new PCs that my PC had earned a Silver Star during a previous episode of the campaign. That was news to me, but I was thrilled to read it. What does it mean in the game world Not much. There's no paperwork, AFAIK, and my character never received a physical medal of any kind. If the unit gets wiped out tomorrow, no one will ever know about it. But IC, it's a subject of IG conversation, a source of pride for the character, a piece of shared history for the members of the unit. Perhaps, someday, some sort of tangible reward will be attached to it (like a promotion or free drinks at a bar). Even if nothing else comes of it, it was a cool moment and I appreciated a fellow player making mention of it. I imagine that other players would likely feel the same way if their characters were awarded a medal.
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                            • #15
                              Does there have to be a functioning Congress for CMHs to be awarded As in, would MilGov hand out CMHs despite not recognizing the authority of the CivGov "Congress" Or does the "Congressional" part not actually mean anything in terms of the way the Congressional Medal of Honor is awarded
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