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    The following is a conversation between me and my wife Friday night

    Wife: I PVR that movie you like
    Me: Which one
    Wife: The one where those high school kids fight an army invading the U.S.
    Me: Red Dawn You PVR red dawn well I have that on dvd but thank you
    Wife: Well can we watch it anyway it looks interesting
    Me: You want to watch it with me
    Wife: Yes Chris Hemsworth is in it
    MeRolling my eyes) Fine it's not the not the same movie
    Wife: What the difference

    20 mins later

    Me: And that's why this movie sucks
    Wife:Can we watch the movie NOW
    Me: Yes you want some popcorn
    Wife: Yes hurry up its starting
    Me: Meh
    I will not hide. I will not be deterred nor will I be intimidated from my performing my duty, I am a Canadian Soldier.

  • #2
    Originally posted by rcaf_777 View Post
    The following is a conversation between me and my wife Friday night

    Wife: I PVR that movie you like
    Me: Which one
    Wife: The one where those high school kids fight an army invading the U.S.
    Me: Red Dawn You PVR red dawn well I have that on dvd but thank you
    Wife: Well can we watch it anyway it looks interesting
    Me: You want to watch it with me
    Wife: Yes Chris Hemsworth is in it
    MeRolling my eyes) Fine it's not the not the same movie
    Wife: What the difference

    20 mins later

    Me: And that's why this movie sucks
    Wife:Can we watch the movie NOW
    Me: Yes you want some popcorn
    Wife: Yes hurry up its starting
    Me: Meh
    And see, this is why I prefer the single life, no offense.

    And yes, I think it's already been agreed by most, the remake is utter crap. The producers should have made the "villians" the CHINESE but they had to bow and kowtow to their masters. The makers of the original film themselves admitted in a documentary that it was a very controversial film even for it's time, but they made it anyway. It seems the producers of this shitty remake lost their balls, or were that desperate to reap potential () Chinese profits.
    "The use of force is always an answer to problems. Whether or not it's a satisfactory answer depends on a number of things, not least the personality of the person making the determination. Force isn't an attractive answer, though. I would not be true to myself or to the people I served with in 1970 if I did not make that realization clear."
    — David Drake

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Schone23666 View Post
      And see, this is why I prefer the single life, no offense.

      And yes, I think it's already been agreed by most, the remake is utter crap. The producers should have made the "villians" the CHINESE but they had to bow and kowtow to their masters. The makers of the original film themselves admitted in a documentary that it was a very controversial film even for it's time, but they made it anyway. It seems the producers of this shitty remake lost their balls, or were that desperate to reap potential () Chinese profits.
      According to what I have read, much like the game Homefront, it was meant to be Chinese villains, but due to the potential loss of revenue from China, they made the villains into Koreans. In both cases, it would of made much more sense to have the Chinese be the antagonists.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by FPSlover View Post
        ...but due to the potential loss of revenue from China, they made the villains into Koreans.
        And therein lies the reality. As I understand it now, the film makers were not pressured by the Chinese to change it, they were simply speculating how much extra money they could make if they could sell it in China.
        They felt that the potential income from China was worth the rewrite.
        It was all about them speculating on the potential profit - even though it destroys the integrity of the story and believability of the movie.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by StainlessSteelCynic View Post
          And therein lies the reality. As I understand it now, the film makers were not pressured by the Chinese to change it, they were simply speculating how much extra money they could make if they could sell it in China.
          They felt that the potential income from China was worth the rewrite.
          It was all about them speculating on the potential profit - even though it destroys the integrity of the story and believability of the movie.
          I no longer doubt your cynicism.
          "The use of force is always an answer to problems. Whether or not it's a satisfactory answer depends on a number of things, not least the personality of the person making the determination. Force isn't an attractive answer, though. I would not be true to myself or to the people I served with in 1970 if I did not make that realization clear."
          — David Drake

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Schone23666 View Post
            I no longer doubt your cynicism.
            Well the name was originally inspired by the Stainless Steel Rat stories by Harry Harrison but I couldn't just steal the name so blatantly.
            And the cynic part, well you can see for yourself how that fits in!

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            • #7
              Well I was stoned when I watched it and thought it was great....

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              • #8
                I actually kind of liked it, but it should have had a different title than Red Dawn. A good war movie, but not a good remake.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Cdnwolf View Post
                  Well I was stoned when I watched it and thought it was great....

                  I was stoned when I watched Xanadu, and I thought that was great too. Olivia Newton John was hot.
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                  "The use of force is always an answer to problems. Whether or not it's a satisfactory answer depends on a number of things, not least the personality of the person making the determination. Force isn't an attractive answer, though. I would not be true to myself or to the people I served with in 1970 if I did not make that realization clear."
                  — David Drake

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by stormlion1 View Post
                    I actually kind of liked it, but it should have had a different title than Red Dawn. A good war movie, but not a good remake.
                    They should change the title to "Kim's wet dream."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by StainlessSteelCynic View Post
                      Well the name was originally inspired by the Stainless Steel Rat stories by Harry Harrison but I couldn't just steal the name so blatantly.
                      I loved that series when I was a teenager. I loved his Deathworld novels too. RIP Harry Harrison.
                      sigpic "It is better to be feared than loved" - Nicolo Machiavelli

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                      • #12
                        There are LOTS of questions women ask that cannot be answered...even by giving no answer...
                        I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons...First We Take Manhattan, Jennifer Warnes

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by StainlessSteelCynic View Post
                          And therein lies the reality. As I understand it now, the film makers were not pressured by the Chinese to change it, they were simply speculating how much extra money they could make if they could sell it in China.
                          They felt that the potential income from China was worth the rewrite.
                          It was all about them speculating on the potential profit - even though it destroys the integrity of the story and believability of the movie.
                          Perhaps they would have been better off making chinese the aggressors, and made an additional ending scene for release in China...

                          Where the last of the American guerillas are rounded up, admit that they were selfish to have opposed the Chinese improvement of American society, apologize for the damage they caused, and accept re-education, and end with a military parade and some good martial music.

                          Both audiences would have been very happy.

                          (I have not seen the remake. Yet.)

                          Uncle Ted

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by unkated View Post
                            Perhaps they would have been better off making chinese the aggressors, and made an additional ending scene for release in China...

                            Where the last of the American guerillas are rounded up, admit that they were selfish to have opposed the Chinese improvement of American society, apologize for the damage they caused, and accept re-education, and end with a military parade and some good martial music.

                            Both audiences would have been very happy.

                            (I have not seen the remake. Yet.)

                            Uncle Ted
                            ROFLMAO!!!

                            Considering the level of nationalism the Chinese are attempting to drum up in their country lately, having an ending like that would likely go over very well with them.
                            "The use of force is always an answer to problems. Whether or not it's a satisfactory answer depends on a number of things, not least the personality of the person making the determination. Force isn't an attractive answer, though. I would not be true to myself or to the people I served with in 1970 if I did not make that realization clear."
                            — David Drake

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