OT: Australia, safest continent on the planet

[TrailerParkJawa]

I've seen some crazy, crazy shit during my times in the great Australian outback. To be honest most Australians aren't rough, tough supermen, but that's because most Australians are born and bred city dwellers who don't have a clue about even the basics of outback survival. People who were born and raised in the bush, they're a different breed. I feel I can say these things without bias, because I'm a city dweller who has spent time in the bush and been around real outback people and spent time as an Army Reservist. I won't say I could just walk off into the Never-Never and survive for years, but I wouldn't be one of the typical Australian city people who would literally die within two days of being dumped in the middle of nowhere.

I just got back from a vacation in Australia. I visited Melbourne, Cairns, and Sydney. What I observed matches what you say. Most Australians are city or suburb types. The country seems to be a bit of a nanny-state with warning sings that border on ridiculous; there was a sign on a strip club warning that you might see situations inside that may offend. Like wow!

My dad spent a lot of time in Alice Springs in the 90's and his descriptions of the folks that live there match people you might meet in Nevada or rural America. Tough folks that mind their own business..

Overall though I really liked it. Melbourne and Cairns in particular. I was stuck however that in the T2K timeline some of these cities probably got nuked and it represents most of Australias actually population.

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I was stuck however that in the T2K timeline some of these cities probably got nuked and it represents most of Australias actually population.

Not really a lot of targets here in Aus though www.forum.juhlin.com/showthread.phpt=1254
You are right though about the population - something like 80% live in urban areas, 60% (approx) live in the capital cities where the majority of likely targets are located.
On the positive side of the coin however, the cities are spread over a wide area - it would take probably a dozen warheads to adequately cover just Sydney (takes up to two hours to drive from one side to the other, a lot longer in peak traffic times).

[StainlessSteelCynic]

Yeah, we tend to build cities horizontally more so than vertically so even though you'll find plenty of commercial (and even industrial buildings) rising dozens of floors into the sky, there's never been as much of a desire for masses of high rise apartments and so on. They do exist, but not clumped together like the "estates" or "projects" found in the UK and USA respectively.

[Targan]

Yeah, we tend to build cities horizontally more so than vertically so even though you'll find plenty of commercial (and even industrial buildings) rising dozens of floors into the sky, there's never been as much of a desire for masses of high rise apartments and so on. They do exist, but not clumped together like the "estates" or "projects" found in the UK and USA respectively.

True, but we're just starting to see a concerted effort by state governments to promote "urban infill" and higher-density living. Here in Perth inner city living has been heavily promoted over the last 10 years (as I'm sure you've seen, Stainless) with accompanying highrise, but obviously we're still a long way from the kind of population densities seen in our nearby Asian neighbour nations. I live just outside of the inner city in a two-storey townhouse myself.

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And this is BEFORE the post nuke, radiation induced mutations...

[ChalkLine]

I've just moved from Tasmania to Queensland. It's hot here, we're getting regular 35oc weeks and it's only spring. It's going to be a bumper year for bush fires. However the snakes here are impressive. I thought the filthiest place for snakes was south west West Australia (in the salt swamps there's a tiger snake for every square metre and yours truly went through it on foot back in 2004) but I've been told that's nothing compared to near waterway here

[Legbreaker]

I went the other direction a couple of decades ago. MUCH prefer the cooler temps here in Tas than the heat up there!

[Targan]

It's going to be a bumper year for bush fires.

That's a spooky bit of prophecy.

There are currently MASSIVE fires raging in Queensland. My thoughts are with everyone in the fire zone, and I wish them the best of luck and hope all are safe.

[Legbreaker]

There are currently MASSIVE fires raging in Queensland. My thoughts are with everyone in the fire zone, and I wish them the best of luck and hope all are safe.

And it's barely even the start of the season....

Hmm, fires. Now there's an thought for the ANZAC book.
No water bombing aircraft from the northern hemisphere, plus limited fuel for fire trucks, a drought, and enemy agents on an arson campaign. I feel an idea coming on...

[ChalkLine]

That's a spooky bit of prophecy.

There are currently MASSIVE fires raging in Queensland. My thoughts are with everyone in the fire zone, and I wish them the best of luck and hope all are safe.

Yeah, 36oc+ temperatures and the wind is the strongest I've seen outside of heavy storms. It's like it's straight out of a furnace. I thought we were going to lose the roof.

After Christmas you'll see Tasmania go up as well. Lots of fuel on the ground

[Legbreaker]

After Christmas you'll see Tasmania go up as well. Lots of fuel on the ground

We've had a bit of rain here recently which has damped things down a bit. There'll be fires of course (always are), but I doubt they'll have the intensity of a couple of years ago.
Of course the greenies are doing their best to increase the fuel load by locking up even more of the state from proper management, so it's just a matter of time...

[Olefin]

And it's barely even the start of the season....

Hmm, fires. Now there's an thought for the ANZAC book.
No water bombing aircraft from the northern hemisphere, plus limited fuel for fire trucks, a drought, and enemy agents on an arson campaign. I feel an idea coming on...

Now that is a real idea - how do you get destruction of cities without a nuke - well one hell of an out of control fire (i.e. see recent fires in CA) with greatly reduced fire fighting capabilities - helped on by say high winds - would definitely do the trick (add in the use of explosives to create fire breaks and it really gets the job done)

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