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  • Found my League of Nations statistics on CD to my surprise.

    Loads of detailed information about standing military forces just before the start of the war. Also government statistics for individual countries in a whole range of statistics from late 1920's through the 1930's by year up until 1939/40.

    All agricultural statistics, and also raw materials such as antimony ore, bauxite, cadmium, chrome ore, coal, copper ore, crude petroleum & shale oil, gold, iron ore, lead ore, lignite, manganese, molybdenum ore, natural gas, nickel ore, nitrogen, phosphates, potash, pyrites, quicksilver, salt & industrial salt, silver, slag, sulphur, tin ore, tungsten ore, vanadium ore and zinc ore.

    Also industrial production of aluminium, automobiles & trucks, benzol, cement, copper, electricity, lead, paper & paper board, petroleum products, pig iron, rayon, shipbuilding, staple fibre, steel, sulphuric acid, super-phosphates, tin, wood pulp and zinc. And merchant navy tonnage and trade statistics.

    All highly relevant to WW2 I think. I'll type it up if anyone is interested.

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    • Originally posted by StainlessSteelCynic View Post
      Wow.
      Really dude Could you be anymore insulting
      Yes, I could be.

      Originally posted by StainlessSteelCynic View Post

      You make a mighty big presumption in that the war could never have been won by the Commonwealth and the Soviet Union. Simply because the USA showed up in the final two years of the European war doesn't mean that the USA "won it".

      And then you go and call anyone debating this retarded.

      This just makes you look like an ignorant 'Merican peasant who doesn't really have any opinions, only prejudices.
      Next you'll be telling us that the USMC has never, ever run from a battle.
      I would proffer that the United States' near total control of currency reserves over the past 70 years is a more clear signal of our status as the 'winners' of WW2 than any tactical withdraws performed by our amphibious force-in-readiness.

      For more about American Primacy:

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      • Originally posted by StainlessSteelCynic View Post
        You make a mighty big presumption in that the war could never have been won by the Commonwealth and the Soviet Union. Simply because the USA showed up in the final two years of the European war doesn't mean that the USA "won it".
        Who ever made this assumption is wrong and needs to remember

        1. The Permanent Joint Board on Defense (A Canada-US Board) was formed in 1940

        2. The Lend-Lease policy, formally titled "An Act to Promote the Defense of the United States was enacted in March 1941

        3. In April 1941 President Roosevelt extended the Pan-American Security Zone east almost as far as Iceland.

        4. In August 1941 the USN begins to provide protection to Allied shipping as far as Iceland

        5. In July 1941 USN TF 19 anchors off Reykjav-k, Iceland and land a Brigade of Marines to secure the island from the British. The USN then deploys PBY Catalinas to patrol the area.

        All these events prove that the US was active in the war in Europe prior to Jan 1942
        I will not hide. I will not be deterred nor will I be intimidated from my performing my duty, I am a Canadian Soldier.

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        • Originally posted by rcaf_777 View Post
          Who ever made this assumption is wrong and needs to remember

          1. The Permanent Joint Board on Defense (A Canada-US Board) was formed in 1940

          2. The Lend-Lease policy, formally titled "An Act to Promote the Defense of the United States was enacted in March 1941

          3. In April 1941 President Roosevelt extended the Pan-American Security Zone east almost as far as Iceland.

          4. In August 1941 the USN begins to provide protection to Allied shipping as far as Iceland

          5. In July 1941 USN TF 19 anchors off Reykjav-k, Iceland and land a Brigade of Marines to secure the island from the British. The USN then deploys PBY Catalinas to patrol the area.

          All these events prove that the US was active in the war in Europe prior to Jan 1942

          Also the US volunteers Eagle Squadrons; three fighter squadrons of the Royal Air Force formed between September 1940 and July 1941with volunteer pilots from the United States were operational in Britain. The 1st American Volunteer Group of the Chinese Air Force, nicknamed the Flying Tigers, was also operational in China prior to December 1941.

          Also at the ABC-1 conference; secret discussions that took place between US and British military staff members on American, British and Canadian (ABC) military coordination in the event of U.S. entry into World War II. The conference took place in Washington, D.C. from January 29 to March 27, 1941; the U.S. and Britain agreed that their strategic objectives were:

          (1) "The early defeat of Germany as the predominant member of the Axis with the principal military effort of the United States being exerted in the Atlantic and European area".

          2) A strategic defensive in the Far East." Thus, the Americans concurred with the British in the grand strategy of "Europe first" in carrying out military operations in World War II. The UK feared that the United States might be diverted from its main focus in Europe to the Pacific if war broke out with Japan.

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