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  • #31
    Greetings gentlemen,

    Not so long lurker, first time posting...

    Ever since the USSR fell apart in 1991, Twilight 2000 worked best as alternative history, rather than as speculative fiction. It should have been re-released as an alternative history period piece set at the turn of the millenium. I think the folks behind Twilight:2013 may have made a mistake setting the game in a year that is rapidly approaching. Before you know it, events will overtake the speculative fiction, which will end up looking pretty quaint.

    For example, I think we can all see that Frank Frey's moderate Islamic Republic of Iran (as depicted in the RDF Sourcebook) turned out to be as fanciful as the USSR lasting until 2000. And the idea that the Slovenians and Croats would side with the USSR against pro-NATO Serbs shows both it's age and it's false assumptions.

    For myself, I've been working on a homegrown history of my own, heavily influenced by the v.1 and v.2 histories. My history diverges in 1989 when hardliners in the USSR assassinate Gorbachev by blowing up his plane while he is traveling to China just before the Tianamen Square Massacre. So, no 1991 coup, no Sino-Soviet War, no wall coming down...

    ... well, not completely anyways. 1989 to 1991 is an era of extreme crisis, with the USSR desperately trying to hold the Warsaw Pact together, the Gulf War and the break up of Yugoslavia. All these events are recast in light of the renewed Cold War and a hard line USSR.

    My Twilight War ends up being a massive confrontation not just between western democracies and a reinvigorated Sino-Soviet alliance, but also between radical Islam. With the Gulf war working out differently, the Serbs engaging in "ethnic cleansing" against Muslims in the Yugoslavia, and the USSR scapegoating their Muslim citizens for the assassination of Gorbachev, leads to the growth of radical Islam into a world-wide threat about 5 years too early.

    Rather than bore the crap out of everyone by writing about it here, I'll hold off and post my Twilight War time-line when I've filled in some of the biggest gaps. It currently stands at 37,000 words and tries to incorporate as much real world history as possible. I've also got a sort of global gazetteer in the works, trying to come up with the basic state of the world's governments after the Twilight War. That's currently at 35,000 words and still growing.

    Anyways... excellent material on this forum. Keep up the great work guys.

    A. Scott Glancy, President TCCorp, dba Pagan Publishing.

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    • #32
      Sounds great. Definately interested in what you've done.
      Wouldn't mind lending a hand either.
      If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

      Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

      Mors ante pudorem

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Legbreaker View Post
        Sounds great. Definately interested in what you've done.
        Wouldn't mind lending a hand either.
        Well, it looks like I can attach pdf files to these forum posts, so I guess I'll just set up a new thread and post it when I'm feeling gutsy...

        ... what I've got is very basic and hasn't been fully researched. At least, not to my tastes anyways.

        Anyone prefer a format other than pdf

        A. Scott Glancy, President TCCorp, dba Pagan Publishing

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        • #34
          Word would be nice if you don't mind me tweaking things a bit with some suggestions - need something to do while I'm supposed to be working!

          If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

          Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

          Mors ante pudorem

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Legbreaker View Post
            Word would be nice if you don't mind me tweaking things a bit with some suggestions - need something to do while I'm supposed to be working!
            Well, since my work will clearly be perfect, and beyond the hand of mortal man to improve, there will be no need for you to tweek it.

            Seriously though, if you know how to use Word's editing options so that I can see all the corrections, that would be fine. It looks like I can post two files attached to each forum post. I'll try to get this done before Tuesday, but as I have to get on a red-eye flight to GenCon Indy, it may have to wait until after I get back.

            A. Scott Glancy, President TCCorp, dba Pagan Publishing

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            • #36
              Originally posted by sglancy12 View Post
              It looks like I can post two files attached to each forum post.
              You should be able to attach 10 files (up to 5 at a time).

              We do have a 500kB limit on files to keep bandwidth down. If you want to share something larger I would suggest www.rapidshare.com. Just make sure you sign up for the collector zone at the end (to allow more than 10 downloads).

              For example I put the breakdown of all my morrow project kits there.


              Most would not apply to T2k but the some of the medical kits would.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by sglancy12 View Post
                Seriously though, if you know how to use Word's editing options so that I can see all the corrections, that would be fine.
                Can be done!
                If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

                Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

                Mors ante pudorem

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                • #38
                  If you use the cutewriter program you can write it using any word processing program and convert it to pdf.
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                  Each day I encounter stupid people I keep wondering... is today when I get my first assault charge??

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                  • #39
                    I'm currently playing in a game based on an alternative timeline, where war starts in 1983 as a result of NATO's ABLE ARCHER-war game being interpreted wrong by the paranoid Yuri Andropov. The change in era means that NATO and the Soviets are much more equal in strength and economic capability.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Kemper Boyd View Post
                      I'm currently playing in a game based on an alternative timeline, where war starts in 1983 as a result of NATO's ABLE ARCHER-war game being interpreted wrong by the paranoid Yuri Andropov. The change in era means that NATO and the Soviets are much more equal in strength and economic capability.
                      Have you read the thread "Able Archer 1983" (http://forum.juhlin.com/showthread.phpt=2263) I think you might be able to contribute some very interesting material to that discusion.
                      sigpic "It is better to be feared than loved" - Nicolo Machiavelli

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                      • #41
                        I love the original time line because of the nostalgia and for simplicity in gaming, but I actually like the 2013 time line better.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Mock26 View Post
                          ...I actually like the 2013 time line better.
                          HEATHEN!!!
                          If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

                          Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

                          Mors ante pudorem

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Mock26 View Post
                            I love the original time line because of the nostalgia and for simplicity in gaming, but I actually like the 2013 time line better.
                            Well you're in the minority there but that's fine, the world is built on diversity of opinions and ideas. I'd love to know what it is about the 2013 timeline that attracts you.
                            sigpic "It is better to be feared than loved" - Nicolo Machiavelli

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                            • #44
                              timelines

                              Originally posted by Mock26 View Post
                              I love the original time line because of the nostalgia and for simplicity in gaming, but I actually like the 2013 time line better.
                              We have our own variety of the timeline.
                              Back in the 1990s we could still relate to the whole East vs West situation. But as the things changed and WWIII: Moscow vs Washington- the Slugfest became less and less likely we also started to "look for new angles".

                              It is nostalgic to go back to the simpler age of fearing the Bear. So I do enjoy the old timelines. Also I do like the attempted new angle the 2013 set up has.
                              But neither older nor newer timeline really had it for us - so we came up with our own. The idea dates back to around 2002-2003. We started playing this campaign in 2004/2005.

                              It has elements of 2013 and some scavenged bits from the V1 or V2 installments.

                              Here is a link. But one caveat - my fellow gamers have condensed and translated bits of it so any misspelling should be attributed them!

                              Also - content might be controversial to some. Rest assured that this is not a political statement of any sort and that any disrespect to any nation - particularily the USA is not ourt intention. ( I guess I could get upset if someone dismembered my country and exaggurated things about it.). Lastly - of course there will be a myriad reasons that this wouldnt play out this way. But here it goes:




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                              • #45
                                Though I wasn't around for the hollow army nor the 80's build up, I do kinda miss the bad old good days of the cold war- you kinda knew what to expect.
                                Member of the Bofors fan club! The M1911 of automatic cannon.

                                Proud fan(atic) of the CV90 Series.

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