And there's plenty of Belgians who align themselves more with Germany than France.
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I have always said if there is one thing that needs to be rewritten and admit they made an error in the game is Belgium whole heartedly joining France in an invasion of the Netherlands and Germany. There is no way that the Flemish area of Belgium joins up for that. You would have had a lot of Flemish soldiers saying screw this and joining the Netherlands in their fight against the French.
I.e. they need to show Belgian units breaking up, some soldiers either refusing orders, deserting, shooting their officers and mutinying, you name it as part of the timeline. But what you get instead is Belgium in lockstep with the French invading and taking over a large part of the Netherlands and apparently the whole Belgian Army saying sure why not.
I suspect there would have been a hell of a lot of insubordination at the very least - and possibly some flat out conflict where Flemish soldiers or units joined the other side.
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Originally posted by Olefin View PostI have always said if there is one thing that needs to be rewritten and admit they made an error in the game is Belgium whole heartedly joining France in an invasion of the Netherlands and Germany. There is no way that the Flemish area of Belgium joins up for that. You would have had a lot of Flemish soldiers saying screw this and joining the Netherlands in their fight against the French.
I.e. they need to show Belgian units breaking up, some soldiers either refusing orders, deserting, shooting their officers and mutinying, you name it as part of the timeline. But what you get instead is Belgium in lockstep with the French invading and taking over a large part of the Netherlands and apparently the whole Belgian Army saying sure why not.
I suspect there would have been a hell of a lot of insubordination at the very least - and possibly some flat out conflict where Flemish soldiers or units joined the other side.
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French propaganda could have been intense and effective leading up to it, also Belgians may as a whole have acknowledged that without joining France, they'd have been left hanging by themselves. Could have been initially presented as an alliance which only after it was all over was revealed to really be an occupation.If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.
Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"
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Originally posted by lordroel View PostThere would be a civil war in Belgium most likely.
And any French officer who came into their barracks to order them to do it would have had a very short and bullet riddled lifespan along with anyone who came with him.
And just looking at the strength of the Belgian Units shows you that there was a lot of defections
Per Canon - 1st Belgian Division - 4000 men and NO Tanks - they had 111 Leopard tanks - they lost them all The 16th Belgian - another 111 Leopard tanks - and by 2000 all gone
And only 8600 men in the two divisions by 2000 For forces that per canon only fought the Netherlands units and ones that were vastly understrength when the French invaded That tells you right there that a lot of men defected or sabotaged a lot of the Belgian Army's tanks.
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Originally posted by Olefin View PostDefinitely - I have talked to people who I work with who are in Belgium to get their opinion- several of whom were in the Belgian Army in the 1990's - and to a man they said that there is no way that the Flemish soldiers - who by the way make up close to half the army - would have joined any invasion of the Netherlands no matter what they got ordered.
And any French officer who came into their barracks to order them to do it would have had a very short and bullet riddled lifespan along with anyone who came with him.
And just looking at the strength of the Belgian Units shows you that there was a lot of defections
Per Canon - 1st Belgian Division - 4000 men and NO Tanks - they had 111 Leopard tanks - they lost them all The 16th Belgian - another 111 Leopard tanks - and by 2000 all gone
And only 8600 men in the two divisions by 2000 For forces that per canon only fought the Netherlands units and ones that were vastly understrength when the French invaded That tells you right there that a lot of men defected or sabotaged a lot of the Belgian Army's tanks.
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