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  • #16
    Keep in mind for improvised units that they would have most likely taken very heavy casualties as they learned to be infantry (i.e. excess ship personnel, maintenance and support units, etc. turned into infantry). All depends on if the Soviets would have had time to train them properly. The Soviets learned that lesson the hard way in WWII when they had to use personnel like that at Riga and Leningrad and Sevastopol.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Olefin View Post
      Keep in mind for improvised units that they would have most likely taken very heavy casualties as they learned to be infantry (i.e. excess ship personnel, maintenance and support units, etc. turned into infantry). All depends on if the Soviets would have had time to train them properly. The Soviets learned that lesson the hard way in WWII when they had to use personnel like that at Riga and Leningrad and Sevastopol.
      Absolutely! The NATO troops were at the end of a very long supply line and had advanced over 1000km in a matter of weeks through the Arctic night after halting a mechanized invasion while having a naval infantry brigade sitting on the sole overland supply route, so they were far from fresh and full strength themselves. Nonetheless, yes the improvised units took horrendous casualties on par with the improvised/hastily formed units of 50+ years prior!
      I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' body. The smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole hill. Smelled like... victory. Someday this war's gonna end...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Lurken View Post
        Then there is also the Naval Infantry formed from port side personnel and sailors without ships.

        Soviets did it in Odessa, Sevastopol, and would have done so again in Murmansk with NATO came closer to them during their offensive.
        Probably the first example of this in Russia were the sailors from the St Petersburg base who came to the aid of the rebellion that later produced the Soviet Union. Not exactly the same thing, I'll grant you, but along the same lines.
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