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  • #16
    Originally posted by Graebarde
    caffeen and sugar anyone take the instant coffee packet (or two or three) and one or more sugar packets. pop'em dry..

    and 40 years ago there were little white pills dispensed for certain individuals on certain operations on a regular basis.

    I have used that trick as well. Even better, the new MRE <well new in the late 80s and early 90s> came in a foil lined package. We'd just bite them and suck on the instant coffee, then put the foil and bite down on a tooth with a filling, ah yeah, nothing like that metal on a filling taste/feel to wake you up.
    "God bless America, the land of the free, but only so long as it remains the home of the brave."

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    • #17
      Chemistry has not only been used by modern army but it might have been the oldest way to try enhance fighting capacity. At Kolwezy in 1966, when the Kantangan mutinied, they were so drugged that they wouldn't feel wounds and it was fairly hard to stop them. On the down side, however, they were fighting like fools and they were more easy to shoot.

      One could even say that these people eating the brain and heart of the ones they killed were also doing something similar.

      Elsewhere, I think that several population around the world have done the same, using some kind of drugs to enhance fighting spirit. Even gangs may be doing so (not sure about that one).

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      • #18
        Ancienat Azetc and Toltecs and others used cocoa <not in the form we know today> and chewed on coca leaves both stimulants.

        Arabs did the hashish and we now have modern term Asassin

        Morrows in the Philipines had their stuff,

        Tribes in Somalia had Kaht.

        Germans issues amphetamines <as do we calling them "Go Pills.">

        Germans pioneered phsycotrophic drugs.

        US and British experimented with halucinegens.

        The Royal Navy issued so much beer and rum and such most of its sailors could probably classify as drunk by todays standards. And liquor was a normal ration in fighting mens ration until fairly recently.

        It is documented that in WWII in the Pacific, Korea and Vietnam many attacking troops were on opium, and I would venture to guess that is the case in A-stan as well.
        "God bless America, the land of the free, but only so long as it remains the home of the brave."

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        • #19
          Originally posted by jester
          And liquor was a normal ration in fighting mens ration until fairly recently.
          Ah how I remember Anzac day and it's traditions so fondly!

          I was picked as a Cenotaph Guard each year I was in the army which is a huge honour (and a pain in the arse for all the polishing and drill practise you've got to do).
          We'd be woken up at around 4am by the Warrant Officer (aka Sergeant Major) with a coffee heavily laced with rum. An hour later we'd be on duty for the dawn service which usually only lasted about 20 minutes
          From there it was off to secure our weapons and then across the road to the pub for a few drinks, then, up to the RSL (Returned Services League) club for breakfast at 8am, followed by more drinking.
          By 10am we hadn't spent a cent but weren't exactly sober... (old soldiers tend to have deep pockets on Anzac day).

          Back on guard for the 11am service which was invariably held in blazing sunshine on the blackest of bitumen - not necessarily a problem until you realise that our cerimonial dress was a woollen kilt with about five layers - designed more for the cool Scottish highlands rather than the Australian summer...

          An hour of sweating all the alcohol consumed eariler in the morning out of our bodies and FINALLY we could relax. Off to the RSL club once more for lunch followed by an afternoon of drinking and playing "two-up" (gambling by throwing two coins into the air and betting on the result - illegal on any other day), so by the time we headed back to the barracks late in the afternoon we'd a) performed a valuable and honourable duty as cenotaph guard, b) gotten royally drunk without spending a cents and c) fended off countless female hands seeking to find out what's really worn under a kilt

          I LOVE ANZAC DAY!
          Last edited by Legbreaker; 02-24-2009, 04:03 PM.
          If it moves, shoot it, if not push it, if it still doesn't move, use explosives.

          Nothing happens in isolation - it's called "the butterfly effect"

          Mors ante pudorem

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          • #20
            Ah the traditions of the military. Some of them were really cool! And fun and strangly those traditions are the ones that are the fuzziest in our memories. Ah like the first week of November and then the dinner and ball. Swinging from the rafters a sword fight and the champagne flowed <we weren't drinking it we were shooting one another with the corks>

            Damn, I need to reinlist
            "God bless America, the land of the free, but only so long as it remains the home of the brave."

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Targan
              I found my cyberpunk drugs conversion doc. I could post it if anyone is interested. Its for Gunmaster though so it would require further conversion for use with any of the T2K rules.
              go ahead and post it T.
              The Big Book of War - Twilight 2000 Filedump Site
              Guns don't kill people,apes with guns do.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by jester
                Ancienat Azetc and Toltecs and others used cocoa <not in the form we know today> and chewed on coca leaves both stimulants.

                Arabs did the hashish and we now have modern term Asassin

                Morrows in the Philipines had their stuff,

                Tribes in Somalia had Kaht.

                Germans issues amphetamines <as do we calling them "Go Pills.">

                Germans pioneered phsycotrophic drugs.

                US and British experimented with halucinegens.

                The Royal Navy issued so much beer and rum and such most of its sailors could probably classify as drunk by todays standards. And liquor was a normal ration in fighting mens ration until fairly recently.

                It is documented that in WWII in the Pacific, Korea and Vietnam many attacking troops were on opium, and I would venture to guess that is the case in A-stan as well.
                Don't forget the Vikings -
                they used to eat red-fly mushroom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria)
                and
                The Big Book of War - Twilight 2000 Filedump Site
                Guns don't kill people,apes with guns do.

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                • #23
                  Gunmaster 2020 Drug Rules...

                  ... as requested by General Pain
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                  sigpic "It is better to be feared than loved" - Nicolo Machiavelli

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